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  • Wormulon
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    19:09, November 1, 2018

    This article is just weird. To list:

    • Female Rum Salamanders supposedly have human breasts, despite being reptiles, and these breasts apparently lactate rum.
    • The urine is supposedly used to light oil. No idea why that would be necessary.


    It's directly tied to the article Andel, which was deleted yesterday because its lore had directly stereotyped atheism, and had a fictional religion (Manslims) be an obvious stereotype of Islam. Given the writer of Andel was Dekar Serverbot, whose profile states,

    my knowledge in taxons is so primitive that i can't put my own real life race there... feel free to edit my creature's taxons as you seem fitting. Thank you!
    It's no surprise that his creature article is outright blatant fetish fuel.
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    • I don't think rum tits and lighter fuel pee are quite the only issues with that page

      Honestly Dekar serverbot's stuff should just be wiped

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    • R-rated creatures aren’t against the Wikia’s rules. This is weird, but there’s been weirder.

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    • Shiznasty wrote: R-rated creatures aren’t against the Wikia’s rules. This is weird, but there’s been weirder.

      Either you haven't read the rules, or the admins are going against them. A highly nsfw creature was removed not too long ago.

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    • Disgustedorite wrote:

      Shiznasty wrote: R-rated creatures aren’t against the Wikia’s rules. This is weird, but there’s been weirder.

      Either you haven't read the rules, or the admins are going against them. A highly nsfw creature was removed not too long ago.

      I wouldn’t say lighter fuel piss is R-rated.

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    • Shiznasty wrote:
      I wouldn’t say lighter fuel piss is R-rated.

      Now this is a debate about whether or not fetishes involving parts other than the genitals is NSFW. My personal ruling is that the definition of pornographic is that it is a photo, video, or literature that is sexual in nature, or is specifically designed to arouse those with a paraphilia. This is the definition used by most people, including me. The concept of pee being an oxidizer is likely representative of urophilia being a fetish that Dekar Serverbot clearly enjoys. I understand that the traditional definiton of sexual in some places is as a photo, but the female Rum Salamanders still have obviously human breasts, making it clear that the purpose of the article is to serve as pornography in written form.

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    • PKMNLivesNew wrote:

      Shiznasty wrote:
      I wouldn’t say lighter fuel piss is R-rated.

      Now this is a debate about whether or not fetishes involving parts other than the genitals is NSFW. My personal ruling is that the definition of pornographic is that it is a photo, video, or literature that is sexual in nature, or is specifically designed to arouse those with a paraphilia. This is the definition used by most people, including me. The concept of pee being an oxidizer is likely representative of urophilia being a fetish that Dekar Serverbot clearly enjoys. I understand that the traditional definiton of sexual in some places is as a photo, but the female Rum Salamanders still have obviously human breasts, making it clear that the purpose of the article is to serve as pornography in written form.

      The urophilia is understandable and rightfully targeted as PG-13, now that you’ve explained it. But...
      Reptiles having human breasts?
      If you look at it sideways and squint [i]really hard[/i], you might see it that way.
      Nonhuman females on this wiki can be made with human breasts at the creators discretion, and has done multiple times in the past.

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    • Breasts on non-mammals are ultimately just a fact of anthropomorphism, even ignoring the fact that milk convergently evolves outside of mammals anyway. But the pages are already on their way to deletion--it was determined that all of Dekar's stuff would be wiped on multiple counts of racism and pro-nazi content being found on his pages.

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    • Shiznasty wrote:
      The urophilia is understandable and rightfully targeted as PG-13, now that you’ve explained it. But...
      Reptiles having human breasts?
      If you look at it sideways and squint [i]really hard[/i], you might see it that way.
      Nonhuman females on this wiki can be made with human breasts at the creators discretion, and has done multiple times in the past.

      I understand that anthropomorphic creatures are usually drawn with breasts by furries if they're physically female. However, the main problem is the urophilia, which is rated at least PG-13; as a result the article, due to being intimately linked with Andel and for content that could be considered NSFW (in particular the "lighter-fuel piss" that's everywhere in the article) or just plain silly. Remember, Dekar Serverbot's the guy who put sections about "Manslims" and "Essyaidouble U Saarkesian," and got global-banned for harassing me. Now, I have visited this wiki before, but I've never seen something as low-quality as making a lizard where only the females are used because they pee oxidizers (which would set the jungle on fire, which is one hell of a plot hole) and because they lactate rum. There's a difference between depicting characters with boobs and making it plain silly. Plus, why does the article describe oviposition and claim that they mark their nest with oxidizing urine? Oxidizers can start fires, as they speed up oxidization, and rapid oxidization is called fire. In other words, the oxidizer urine was only added to allow him to receive sexual gratification at will by reading an article on this site, by appealing to his urophilia.

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    • ignore the fact I just used bbcode

      PKMNLivesNew wrote:

      Shiznasty wrote:
      The urophilia is understandable and rightfully targeted as PG-13, now that you’ve explained it. But...
      Reptiles having human breasts?
      If you look at it sideways and squint [i]really hard[/i], you might see it that way.
      Nonhuman females on this wiki can be made with human breasts at the creators discretion, and has done multiple times in the past.

      I understand that anthropomorphic creatures are usually drawn with breasts by furries if they're physically female. However, the main problem is the urophilia, which is rated at least PG-13; as a result the article, due to being intimately linked with Andel and for content that could be considered NSFW (in particular the "lighter-fuel piss" that's everywhere in the article) or just plain silly. Remember, Dekar Serverbot's the guy who put sections about "Manslims" and "Essyaidouble U Saarkesian," and got global-banned for harassing me. Now, I have visited this wiki before, but I've never seen something as low-quality as making a lizard where only the females are used because they pee oxidizers (which would set the jungle on fire, which is one hell of a plot hole) and because they lactate rum. There's a difference between depicting characters with boobs and making it plain silly. Plus, why does the article describe oviposition and claim that they mark their nest with oxidizing urine? Oxidizers can start fires, as they speed up oxidization, and rapid oxidization is called fire. In other words, the oxidizer urine was only added to allow him to receive sexual gratification at will by reading an article on this site, by appealing to his urophilia.

      I’m going to leave this to the admins and bureaucrats to decide which course of action is best.

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    • Yes, leave it to the admins.

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    • I will appreciate it if people kept the psychoanalysing of fanfiction and diagnosing whatever conscious or unconscious psychological motivations are behind users to themselves.

      It is not only completely unnecessary, but whether a member from here is blocked or not, it isn't constructive to post speculation about them. We do not have direct access to each other's motivations and subjective states by critiquing some short fanfic. If this starts becoming a habit people will inaccurately demonise each other. I have seen this stuff lead to bad faith, bullying and conflict before.

      As an admin I demand this stops now.

      I've said it before, we already have rules in place that do not allow discriminating content or profanity aimed at other members. It is simple, if there is such content, just report it to an admin. It would help if such content was pinpointed on the page as well. But debating all this psychoanalysis stuff is silly.

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