Skipping StagesEdit

OK, I just started a species in Civilization stage as Military, and when I want to Space stage I was a Warrior. So whoever said starting at any stage besides cell results in Wanderer never actually tried it.ErzengelLichtes 05:57, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

It was me that said that as that was what was known at the time of the edit, I'm still experimenting with others to see if every philosophy can be reached while skipping phases or only Shaman, Trader and warrior. Dd7900 09:59, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
I give high probability that Bard, Ecologist, and Knight can only be obtained by starting at the Cell stage as they require 1 of each color + 1 to determine which of those 3 they will be. Diplomat, Scientist, and Zealot should be possible if starting at the creature stage. However, I have not tested this, and so I will not update the main pages without empirical evidence. ErzengelLichtes 16:07, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
I have just finished a species that went Cell Red/Creature Blue/Tribe Blue and got scientist. Maybe the rules need to be changed from the numbers of each card to the percentages of each card as this game I had 67% Blue 33% Red and we have established that at least 3 blues are needed for trader (75%-100%) Dd7900 10:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
I am confused. You say you had Cell Red, Creature Blue, and Tribe Blue, and you got scientist. What was you civilization?Blue, green, or red? If red, that's how you are supposed to get scientist. On the other hand, if you mean Creature Red, Tribe Blue, and Civ Blue, that's in line with my findings with Diplomat. Feel free to add your factual information to the wiki--just make sure that you've actually tried it in game, don't espouse an untested theory. ErzengelLichtes 20:03, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
No: He played Cell stage and was a carnivore (red). Then he played Creature Stage and was Adaptable (Blue). Then he played Tribal Stage and was Industrious (Blue). He then SKIPPED Civilization, and went to Space Stage using the creature he had from finishing Tribal (probably in another game). This is why he became a Scientist. Note that I can confirm you can skip Tribal and/or Civilization stages like this.

Here is an example of a Civilization creature that did not partake in Tribal Stage. 01:51, February 17, 2010 (UTC) Okay, I can confirm that Creature Stage is skippable. Simply complete Cell Stage, make a creature FOR creature stage, save it. Go to a different planet. Select your creature as that creature. Bam, you just skipped Creature, Tribal, and civilization. 02:06, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Archetype/Philosophy DifferenceEdit

I've found that Knights and Warriors both follow the Stones of Force, which is a Philosophy, whereas Knight is actually an Archetype. Wanderers and Diplomats both follow the Scrolls of Order. I'm going to get one of my Knights up to 4 or 5 star and see if I can become a Knight or if I become a Warrior instead.—ErzengelLichtes (Contribs) 23:38, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I believe we should split archetype and philosophy into different articles. Also i believe the game calls archetype "trait" since I never remember reading the word "archetype" in game. --Voidvector 01:20, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
See the Alter Ego Achievement, also found on my achievements list. The text reads, "Play the Space stage as all 10 archetypes". The Split Personality Achievement also says, "Complete a "Change Archetype" mission". However, the Split Personality badge calls it a Personality. The guide ambiguously says that your history shows you "philosophy". This is what beta testers refer to as a Text Bug: Inconsistency. It's either an archetype or a personality, philosophies seem to be the 8 philosophies where 2 of the personality/archetypes share with another pair. Traits refer to the Trait cards such as Herbivore, Social, Aggressive, and Military, while the end result is the archetype, personality, or philosophy. —ErzengelLichtes (Contribs) 02:08, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Consequence Ability TableEdit

I think the consequence ability table needs to be removed from the philosophy page as it has more to do with Traits, than philosophy or archetypes. I will not remove it myself, being new here I am far mor comfortable adding and or correcting/amending content than removing it. Farproc 09:16, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Other use of Archetypes?Edit

Hi there! I'm a little confused over the use of the term Archetypes with relation to Spore. According to the Spore wikia, they are philosophies but I stumbled across an archetypes tutorial on the official spore site: Can anyone clarify this for me? MurlynLAN 02:03, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


Should we mention the subtleties of each archetype, such as voice? At least on my computer, each archetype has a slightly different, but very similar voice. The shaman empires, for example, have shrill voices, zealots have deep, gutteral voices, ect. If this is worth mentioning, please add it. I'm not too keen on editing. Mrb10 21:48, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

It is worth adding, ive noticed it too. I'll add voice descriptions to some archetypes. The ones ive encountered,anyway.- 13:52, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the race's voice depends on 2 things: size of race's mouth(creatures with large mouth will have deeper voice) and their archetype. The only exception is your race: they always have same voice. Diplomats have alien female voice. Traders have alien male voice. Bards have alien child voice. Warriors have roaring,but human voice. Zealots have deep alien voice. Scientists have strange voice, as through transmitter. Ecologist have squeaky voice. Shaman have shrill voice. Imperios 07:48, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

If anyone can get some sound samples of the different archetype voice, they would be nice to have the article. Toa Warlaus 12:25, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Skipping halfway through Edit

That chart there shows that you can skip, but well, it's hard too explain... As my creature, Toungsterone, I was an omnivore, then in creature I was adaptable, but in Tribal, I had a problem. I saved with my cheiftan at very low health, all tribe members dead, and my main hut was at 200 hp. Every time my inevitable death came, it would return me back a few seconds and it would happen all over again. I started a new game with Toungsterone in Civ phase, was religous, and moved on to space, where I became a Diplomat. When I looked back at my history chart, it said: Omnivore Adaptable Blank Religous Diplomat In the blank spot was nothing but the Tribal flame. Perhaps these forms of combinations should be considered in the chart? Paradox Juice 17:04, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Still no answer :( Paradox Juice 22:57, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

its not normally possible, so i say no. 13:19, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean its not normally possible? Sure you have to go to a different game save and stuff, but it makes sense to include those combinations-we want to supply ALL combos, don't we? Paradox Juice 15:48, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree, we need to expand this to include skipping. It'll take some work, but I might be able to do it at some point. morgoth t/C 17:12, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Changing ArchetypesEdit

If I change my archetype, do I keep my old superpower as well as gaining another one? For instance, if I'm a Trader and become a Zealot, do I then have Cash Infusion and Fanatical Frenzy, or just Fanatical Frenzy? 16:18, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

No, you lose Cash Infusion. morgoth t/C 16:30, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

I have another question on this topic. I understand that your super power changes when you change archetype, but do the bonuses from previous stages remain the same? Example, if I play through R-R-G-B and end up a Knight, then change to Shaman, do I still have Power Monger, Prime Specimen, Gracious Greeting, and Spice Savant? -Anon 12:40, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

I belive you do keep those i changed from warrior to diplomat and i still have the thing..whats it called?.. The thing that gives your Spaceship extra health if you play as a predator in Creature stage

Sporesauce 22:24 Feb 25, 2010

Archetype of Pollinated SpeciesEdit

Spore Wiki says that the archetype of any pollinated content is determined at random for each game, meaning that the consequence traits you worked so hard for are irrelevent since they do not apply in other peoples' games.

Spore (2008 video game) article in Wikipedia says that the archetype of any pollinated content is the same as what the original creator had chosen. For example, if the original creator chose to play as a Warrior, that species should always have the Warrior archetype when interacting in another player's game.

So, which one is it? 01:22, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

SporeWiki is correct. Your traits have no effect, but I seem to find the carnivore empires have a higher chance of being Warriors or Scientists, for some reason Thanks, TimeMaster Talk Main Contribs 02:22, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

In my game i found an Empire of a species i had made, this was Fanatic, the same as i had made it. I also discovered an empire of the same species, but a Diplomat Archetype. And the Diplomat empire was much larger then the Fanatic empire. This is possible, Why?- 11:52, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

RE: "Power Monger Effect and Testing" Edit

I would like to know if it is also true that you can travel 1.5 times more. (because it is no tool or weapon) will please someone test this for me please? - Galoluka

We already tried this somewhere, but I don't where I saw it. . . Also, use four tildes (~) especially for IPs to sign and don't make your own sig by going -My name even though I didn't register. Thanks, TimeMaster Talk Main Contribs 20:09, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Archetypes and their govermentsEdit

Sometimes alien races of each other philosophies speak of their goverments.

  • Diplomats - Parliments and Grand Councils
  • Traders - Pan Galactic empires
  • Scientist - Technocrats?
  • Bards - Empires
  • Zealots - Theocracy
I think Diplomats are just plain Grand Councils. Also, I think Warriors are probably Military Juntas. And Traders probably don't have "Pan Galactic" empires. Thanks, TimeMaster Talk Main Contribs 00:33, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Diplomats - Grand Council
  • Scientist - Technocracy
  • Bard - Empire
  • Zealot - Theocracy
  • Warrior - Military Junta
  • Shaman - Constitutional Monarchy
  • Ecologist - Democracy
  • Trader - Empire
  • Knight - Military Junta

That's my best guess. Thanks, TimeMaster Talk Main Contribs 00:44, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Does anyone think that Knights are Republics?- 11:54, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

A Trader empire once mentioned to me that they were a Pan Galactic empire, but you are probably right. Wormulon 15:37, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

I think The Shamans are a Chiefdom, and I think the Knights are a Monarchy. --Liquid Ink 07:16, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree that the Knights are probably a Monarchy, but I would probably put Shaman down as a theocracy, just a more peaceful and less forceful one than the Zealots. Why do you think they are a Chiefdom? PM Otto 12:34, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

I always was thinking shamans as a form of dictatorship, though the 'dictator' would probably be the 'head' shaman, ecologists as true communism, and knights as direct democracies. Sporeblade 19:50, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Changing types without missions Edit

I read in my spore guide that simply by behaving like an archtype (aka, blowing up tons of stuff to be like a warrior) will eventually change your archtype, they have a whole graph for it too. Has this acually happen to anyone?--Armadyl Helm‎Long Live ArmadylArmadyl Helm‎ 18:49, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

I have never heard of that, are you sure you are not mistaken? Wormulon 19:43, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

My Spore guide don't say anything about this. And I blew up many empires and I'm still a diplomat. OluapPlayer 20:01, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Page 206 of the spore official game guide: "You can change the personality type that you start the Space Stage with by performing certain types of missions... Focusing on actions and missions of a certain category move your personality toward that category. For example, if you start out Space Stage as a wanderer..., your personality type is in the dead center of the personality matrix triangle. Focusing exclusively on battle and conquest will eventually make you a Knight, because your moving toward the warrior point of the triangle. Continuing along this path will eventually change your personality to Warrior." (The reason the sig looks so weird is 'cause I mostly use the runescapewiki, so my sig is runescape themed)--Armadyl Helm‎Long Live ArmadylArmadyl Helm‎ 13:46, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

If you want to change your archtype, you need to ask an empire to change your archtype, then you will have to provide them with plenty of sporebucks, next they will ask you to do missions for them. Once you have completed the mission, your archtype changes to a different philosophy. Wormulon 17:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I am fairly certain that is not what they are talking about. I would have photo copied the page, but there is a ton of copyright stuff in the book, and I have had a fair share of copyright evilness.--Armadyl Helm‎Long Live ArmadylArmadyl Helm‎ 17:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Grox PhilosophyEdit

What kind of philosophy do the Grox have, and what power? --Liquid Ink 07:19, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

It is unknown what power they have, although some users have speculated about a "Staff of Death". Although this is not known in gameplay. The Grox do have a philosophy and you can even get mods to play it. Wormulon 09:56, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

What does the archetype card look like 10:12, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
I don't think it has one. Wormulon 10:41, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

In Galactic Adventures Maxis-Mission the Grox are said to be able to launch infection pods. --Liquid Ink 22:20, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Skipping Stages and their Paths Edit

Okay these need to be investigated. Everything else is already in the big chart. Just edit this part with the relavant information and try to get a screenshot so we have proof. I don't think people are inclined to believe that we are able to skip stages (in the middle) to begin with, so get what you can.

2 stages
Cell -> Space
Herbivore -> Skip -> Skip -> Skip -> Shaman
Omnivore -> Skip -> Skip -> Skip -> Trader
Carnivore -> Skip -> Skip -> Skip -> Warrior
Creature -> Space
Skip -> Social -> Skip -> Skip -> Shaman
Skip -> Adaptable -> Skip -> Skip -> Trader
Skip -> Predator -> Skip -> Skip -> Warrior
Tribal-> Space
Skip -> Skip -> Friendly -> Skip -> Shaman
Skip -> Skip -> Industrious -> Skip -> Trader
Skip -> Skip -> Aggressive -> Skip -> Warrior
3 Stages
Cell -> Creature -> Space
Herbivore -> Social -> Skip -> Skip -> Shaman
Herbivore -> Adaptable -> Skip -> Skip ->
Herbivore -> Predator -> Skip -> Skip ->
Omnivore -> Social -> Skip -> Skip -> Diplomat
Omnivore -> Adaptable -> Skip -> Skip -> Trader
Omnivore -> Predator -> Skip -> Skip ->
Carnivore -> Social -> Skip -> Skip ->
Carnivore -> Adaptable -> Skip -> Skip ->
Carnivore -> Predator -> Skip -> Skip -> Warrior
Cell -> Tribal -> Space
Herbivore -> skip -> Friendly -> skip ->
Herbivore -> skip -> Industrious -> skip ->
Herbivore -> skip -> Aggressive -> skip ->
Omnivore -> skip -> Friendly -> skip ->
Omnivore -> skip -> Industrious -> skip ->
Omnivore -> skip -> Aggressive -> skip ->
Carnivore -> skip -> Friendly -> skip ->
Carnivore -> skip -> Industrious -> skip ->
Carnivore -> skip -> Aggressive -> skip ->
Cell -> Civilization -> Space
Herbivore -> skip -> skip -> Economic ->
Herbiore -> skip -> skip -> Religious ->
Herbivore -> skip -> skip -> Military ->
Omnivore -> skip -> skip -> Economic ->
Omnivore -> skip -> skip -> Religious ->
Omnivore -> skip -> skip -> Military ->
Carnivore -> skip -> skip -> Economic ->
Carnivore -> skip -> skip -> Religious ->
Carnivore -> skip -> skip -> Military ->
4 Stages
Cell-> Creature -> Tribal -> Space
Omnivore -> Social -> Aggressive -> skip -> Warrior
Cell -> Creature -> Civilization -> Space
Cell -> Tribal -> Civilization -> Space
Omnivore -> skip -> Friendly -> Religious -> Diplomat

Fill in the blanks if you can. I got a little lazy and stopped adding all the possible paths when I got to the fours. An example of Skipping Stages in Spore 02:16, February 17, 2010 (UTC)Lordike89 21:32, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

But, how do you skip stages? I know how to start a game not on the cell stage, but I don't know how skip stages in between two phases. WormulWormulon Talk to me 21:09, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

All right: 1) Start from Cell Stage. 2) Play the game until you get to the stage you want to skip. So for example, if you want to skip only Civilization stage; beat Cell,Creature, and Tribal. Enter Civilization and save. Exit to the Main menu. Choose a DIFFERENT planet w/o a save file. Select Space Stage. It will prompt you for your creature. Go to your creations, and find the creature you were using in Tribal Stage (as in the one that has three little characteristic icons). 3) Continue as you normally would. Lordike89 21:24, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

Ethnocentricity Edit

Why are the 10 Archetypes so western culture ethnocentric? Also why are there repeats under diffident names and no combinations ? Is there a way to contact William Ralph "Will" Wright or am I going to need to look him up in the phone book?


Please sign your name but answer to your 'complaint' i think he has personified what humans and maybe alien species are like in real life. Do you really think this earth will go to space and be a galatic superpower without being all 'one' mind? By meaning, if we found aliens now you would have 5 groups:

1. Peaceful negotations (in game this would be dimplomat/sharman i would think) 2. To scientifically modify them or just simply 'research' them (scientist, ecologist, wanderer) 3. People who would use relgion to either make you believe their 'story' (i am also calling atheists a relgion too as they follow that there isn't a God or Gods) (Zealot) 4. A group who want to destroy them and everything to gain the planet to 'extend' earth's and the species lifespan (Warrior, Knight) 5. People who would want to ecnomically 'gain' from the experience by trading goods and entertainment values to the aliens' culture. (Bard, Trader)

See we would have a conflict internally if we met aliens now. We be hopeless, thats why their would need to be an 'overuling' or consistent 'superower' philosophy.

Like in our own history, look at the countries who have one religion as their state religion and look at the ones who don't care about their finances. (infering to the middle east and Greece/italy/spain here)

HumanRejection (talk) 10:26, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

Dialogue Glitch Edit

I just completed a mission from a bard empire, and then it said "Spode's Glory shines on these specimens" or something like that. Somehow, the dialogue for that particular part got messed up. After that particular screen, the empire's dialogue continued as normal. Has this happened to anyone else? Dullstar 04:57, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Custom Archetypes Edit

A couple things that fallen on my mind:Druid,Archer,Alchemist,Biologist,Politician,Astronomer,etc.
I did it for fun! --TheSmasherTeam 20:33, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

How Many 'Cards' You Have Edit

Can someone explain to me what you mean by 2 green cards, 1 red card and 1 blue card etc for example? I know these cards are achieved by the way you act every stage of the way. However, there are 12 stages per Stage (cell,creature, tribe, civ, space). So what you mean? Do you mean you only need 1 green card within those 60 spaces for cards, or do you mean 1 per 12 cards? so i started from the cell stage, I got 12 red cards (eating everything), in the creature, i got 2 green (nice to them dance and all that junk), 8 red and the rest blue i think - Tribal stage, i got half green and half red and civilisation I got nearly all green with 1 red. But i still got warrior, like i ALWAYS do. I try and do what it says but always my outcome is either knight or warrior... please explain. HumanRejection (talk) 10:06, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

Look at the "Path To Each Archetype" section. You get one card at the end of each Stage depending on how you've acted throughout the stage (e.g. if you eat a lot more meat than you eat plants in Cell Stage, you get the Carnivore card, which is red). GirdoPic Ghelae - (talk) 10:26, August 26, 2012 (UTC)

Ah I see it, I was being stupid. It has the cards at the top of the history as well as that! I always look at the little progressbar and it goes green or red or blue, so i was looking at the chart bewildered. I started a new one and became a shaman, now i am trying to become an ecologist. There me thinking you only could be a warrior and had to change in the space stage. HumanRejection (talk) 18:35, August 28, 2012 (UTC)