Good it seems, but the actual language for the titles is not proper for the wiki, I have edited them n__n (talk) VofValar 16:59, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks XD--TechnobliteratorLorTechno's Talk 17:00, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Whoa, I'm mentioned a lot. What am I, Lord of All Fiction? DmrchXh Xhodocto-3546 17:03, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

You're mentioned because a common mistake is saying "My empire is better than the Xhodocto who are the best". What do you not like that?--TechnobliteratorLorTechno's Talk 17:06, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Concerning this, We should link Dinoman pages as well, they are very complete (talk) VofValar 17:09, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

I must agree! Done.--TechnobliteratorLorTechno's Talk 17:53, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Wondering Edit


This is a very good idea and awesome explained and well detailed. However I fell over an issue, it says that if you do something wrongs or claiming your fiction is better etc. your fiction get hated. Now in my opinion it is a little bit a strong word, I prefer the word disliked or not popular and hate sounds a bit awefull. But I do not know how others users think of this.

None the less, this is very usefull for the new users. Dinoman82 17:38, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Ah. Well, we will say "disliked"? You can edit if you like. BTW PEOPLE- we should advertise this? I've said how on Wormulon's talk page.--TechnobliteratorLorTechno's Talk 17:08, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

I concur with Dinoman, I made a few edits to make it look more proper n__n (talk) VofValar 17:08, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

I think we should limit the use of capital lettering in some places, it looks like the reader is being shouted at, and it doesn't look right. WormulWormulon Talk to me 17:13, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Again I concur, I think we are underestimating new people a little bit, good-willing users will never write that, not in Ose's watch, it will probably be marked as spam, so let's be friendly (talk) VofValar 17:30, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

You are right about that, not all are claiming they are the best etc. Anyway, I also edited a part with that the new users also do not forget (even though there are rules) should not forget to have a great time and fun on the Wikia Dinoman82 17:38, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Of course, not all editors who start fictions here are instantly undefeatable. This includes several new ones. WormulWormulon Talk to me 17:31, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

While I do agree with you, I still say it's a pain when there are. It would also help them out. Ok, so I was going a bit OTT...--TechnobliteratorLorTechno's Talk 17:35, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thats why we are making this guide, to offer this wiki's way to new users that unfortunately do such things n__n, when this happens we give them the link (talk) VofValar 17:42, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

We don't give them the link, they find the link before they start editing...--TechnobliteratorLorTechno's Talk 17:44, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

In the future, users that do not edit "well" means that they have skipped the link, so its our duty to pass them, just in case n__n (talk) VofValar 17:49, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Another tip, it would be better not to write user names on the page, this is a wikia page and not someone's fiction, any way this is just a suggestion and i don't know if it is allowed here on the wiki, in other wikis where I'm admin I do not allow users to do that on wiki pages (the ones under the namespace: "WIKINAME:"), anyway just suggesting n__n (talk) VofValar 17:46, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Removed step 5? Edit

Why was Step 5 removed? The fact that it was n't about "starting" fiction?--TechnobliteratorLorTechno's Talk 17:57, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Because the fact that the Xhodocto are the most powerful race in the wiki doesn't mean people must follow it, just look at Ghelae's fiction, its completely on another parallel Dimension where no Xhodocto has gone before, and yet his fiction is complete as well, don't worry, I have placed that step as a Tip in a new section a made n__n (talk) VofValar 18:02, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes indeed, I was also wondering that :D. I also edited a part about using Gods like things in you fiction, that when it destroys a Galaxy, is does not mean other users fiction are destroyed! Dinoman82 18:04, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

You obviously don't get what I said a "Xhodocto killer" was.--TechnobliteratorLorTechno's Talk 18:08, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes I got it, but the Xhodocto Killer thing its just an example that doesn't have to be step 5 since here we are to teach people about fiction, and not about the greatest species in the site, that's why I placed it on other tips section. (talk) VofValar 18:24, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Yes I agree with the Valadar, perhaps we should put a seperate section on the page where users can see how large and well explained fiction are made with links to it, examples of fiction there put can be the Delpha Coalition of Planets, the Xhodocto, the Krassio Host, the Capricornian Sector Alliance, the Vartekians etc? Dinoman82 18:31, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

I also think we shouldn't set too many standards, or the wiki will feel restricted and unkind to new users, and thats not what wiki's are about. Users fictions doesn't have to live up to the standards of lets say, the Xhodocto. Many fictions are different and many fictions don't even participate in big Sporewiki wars, alliances and other stories. I think this should only apply to crossing fictions with other users, to make a fairer roleplay. WormulWormulon Talk to me 18:41, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, you are right about that, didn't think it of that way. Yeah perhaps we should not do it then. Dinoman82 18:43, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Agree. -- (talk) VofValar 18:45, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Hold on? What if users are struggling to make their fiction and need help? That's what it's for--TechnobliteratorLorTechno's Talk 19:14, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Clash of the fictions Edit

Some fictions might be incompatible with others. Consider the Human Republic and the Human History Post 21st century. Both have affiliations with Sporewiki empires in the same universe (Jovar and the Jarquvix, and the Jarquvix, DCP and Human Republic). WormulWormulon Talk to me 14:26, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

hmm... Speaking of which should we mention Fiction:Grox Empire and Fiction:Human Republic and the rules for them?--TaldarPic Technobliterator TC 19:17, June 6, 2010 (UTC)

Something to say Edit

This doesn't mean you can make fictions and pretend that fiction sucks(Example:If i write in this that they sucks Because they are too violent.),every fiction is good fiction. TheSmasherTeam 10:35, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

How do you add pictures? Also, what if you tried to make it sound like the fiction was written by your, what if I said something like "Our illustrious leader"...basically, is this-->[[1]] okay for a noob? Please tell me...Thx! Caeserguy 03:11, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Well, since new galaxies are generally frowned upon in the current atmosphere, colonising an entire galaxy isn't likely to happen. Aside from that, once they have completed their quest to destroy the Grox, their 'deity' stage will basically be where most races in the wikiverse are at this point, so I have no problems with it. -This message by Spriggs077, a.k.a. AGrumpyPanda 07:31, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Q about Galaxies Edit

Why can we not create new galaxies? --Wickle Fwickle (talk) 05:57, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Before the cleanslate this wiki had a problem with people creating one-user galaxies and never interacting with the outside. This rule was set up to encourage new users to create stuff in established settings. You can still create private universes with as many galaxies as you want so long as it does not interact with the main fictionverse.

--Urielminipic01Monet47 - "Immortality is an elusive thing" 10:58, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

So we can actually make separate universes but not separate galaxies? Oh, and what if our galaxies do interact with other user-made fiction? Would that be acceptable? Anyways, why is it considered not-so-good if users don't interact? Thanks! --Wickle Fwickle (talk) 10:53, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
Private universes interacting with the main fictionverse is generally discouraged, you can do what you like and that's why they're kept private. Stuff like tier 0s, 1s, galaxy-sized etc. is allowed; Your universe your rules as long as it does not cross over. The whole "we don't like non-interaction" mindset is there because being isolated kinda defeats the point of putting it in a collab universe and being in a community project. --Urielminipic01Monet47 - "Immortality is an elusive thing" 16:40, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
So it's okay if the galaxy made still contains species interacting? --Wickle Fwickle (talk) 12:30, November 20, 2012 (UTC)
Also, are there any current alternate universes in this wikia thus far? --Wickle Fwickle (talk) 14:21, November 22, 2012 (UTC)
Private universe fiction is not allowed to interact with the rest of the fictionverse. That's why it's called "private universe". MiniShuulathoi2 OluapPlayer - Fear me, cowards! 14:28, November 22, 2012 (UTC)
Okay.... Also, what if I create a Magellanic Cloud-like formation as my galaxy that contains creations that DO interact with the main fiction creations a bit? Would the cloud's creation be justified then? --Wickle Fwickle (talk) 06:50, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
No. It would stil be classed as a new galaxy and I think we have enough dwarf galaxies already. --Urielminipic01Monet47 - "Immortality is an elusive thing" 18:04, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
I don't expect you treat a cloud any different than how you'd treat a galaxy. I mean, if the Cloud's occupants do interact with other user-created empires and such, would the cloud's existence be justified? --Wickle Fwickle (talk) 05:22, November 24, 2012 (UTC)
If you mean a nebula inside of a existing galaxy, then go ahead. That's what Aquilo is doing with the Eagula Region, actually.
Ze Battul Medick! (talk) 05:34, November 24, 2012 (UTC)Operation Marines
Ah. Thanks. --Wickle Fwickle (talk) 05:44, November 24, 2012 (UTC)
So....any good galaxies? Preferably a big one? A somewhat less busy one? --Wickle Fwickle (talk) 05:20, November 25, 2012 (UTC)
Milky Way's a good starter one.
Ze Battul Medick! (talk) 05:26, November 25, 2012 (UTC)Operation Marines
'Kay. Thanks! --Wickle Fwickle (talk) 13:30, November 25, 2012 (UTC)
Also, for the alternate universes, how do we name them? For the usual fictionverse, it's "fiction:____" or something like that. How does it work for Alternate Fictions? --Wickle Fwickle (talk) 14:11, November 25, 2012 (UTC)
Eh.... anyone gonna answer? --Wickle Fwickle (talk) 08:14, December 5, 2012 (UTC)
All "Fiction" pages are in the "Fiction:" namespace, regardless of what universe they're in. --20px - Cyrannian - Something Wicked This Way Comes... 11:03, December 5, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. --Wickle Fwickle (talk) 12:36, December 5, 2012 (UTC)
BTW, can multiple users interact in alternate universes? Or are they mainly private? --Wickle Fwickle (talk) 02:37, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

Why can't you start in the Fiction:Borealis Galaxy?Edit

What is the reason for this? --Matthew Cenance (talk) 17:54, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

You can but you will have to ask OluapPlayer for permission. But he's on a break right now so I don't quite know who you ask now at this moment in time. --Zmr56 (talk) 18:11, April 17, 2013 (UTC)
There is legitimate justification for these limitations. These galaxies were created by them and they tend to have a plot which involves all or most of their galaxy, and it's not really fair to let any user pop in and do whatever they want with them. Tek0516 (talk) 23:31, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

Other Collaborative Fictionverse Edit

Are we allowed to create different collaborative fiction universes? Or only personal fiction universes? I mean, can users create fiction universes other users can interact with each other in? --Wickle Fwickle (talk) 13:46, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Well you can try, it has been done before, but they haven't really lasted. I would suggest doing a different format to the main SporeWiki Fiction Universe. -WormulWormulon Talk to me 22:07, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Please add info to the blank Tier 3, Tier 2, and Tier 1 sectionsEdit

These section are missing information. --Matthew Cenance (talk) 18:26, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

That will be done in time. I believe the Tier system is going through a rework. In short, be patent.

Ze Battul Medick! (talk) 02:22, April 19, 2013 (UTC)Operation Marines

i would like to make a new galaxy called Hannibalium, is that allowed. If not, what can I make. I plan to make multiple planets, solar systems but i want the mto all be in the same galaxy

can i make a new galaxy called Hannibalium. --TheCreator902 (talk) 18:21, February 6, 2016 (UTC)

No, no new galaxies are allowed. I advise making a fiction in an already existing one. DrodoEmpire 18:28, February 6, 2016 (UTC)DrodoEmpire

Question about getting started Edit

I find confussing the way I should start. In the Guidelines says "Usually, once you send a transmission to a contributor to the Fiction Universe (usually on the talkpage of a particular fiction) [...] you are automatically made a member".

Is that a requisite to start making a fiction? Or the fiction is made before and that is the way to officially enter the Fiction Universe? Either way, what is a "transmission"? Just a "Hi, I'd like to be a member" sentence?

Too many questions!! Zymoox (talk) 19:05, April 12, 2016 (UTC) 20:04, April 12, 2016 (UTC)

No, it isn't required, since you are allowed to make fiction before, and even without, joining a collaborative fiction universe. Furthermore, you should make your fiction before trying to join so that people interacting with it will know what they're dealing with.
A "transmission" is just an in-universe message (as in, one empire is transmitting a message to another), although a lot of what we do in practice is out-of-universe communications between users, mostly on message walls and IRC. GirdoPic Ghelae - (talk) 19:20, April 12, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. I thought my question would be forgotten as other topics are almost 5 years old. Anyways, I'll finish my fiction, and "role-playingly" request a place in the Milky Way of a collaborative universe.
Zymoox (talk) 19:31, April 12, 2016 (UTC) 20:30, April 12, 2016 (UTC)

Hey Edit

Are AU's (Alternate Universes) Allowed? It is owned by you and does not tie with the real one.

--DylanheBuilder (talk) 01:07, March 20, 2017 (UTC)

Yep, alternate universes unrelated to the main ones are allowed. DrodoEmpire 01:10, March 20, 2017 (UTC)DrodoEmpire

3. "Oversized empires, for example spanning an entire galaxy, with a population greater than the number of stars in the universe, with starships a trillion miles long are greatly discouraged."

Rule Analysis Edit

First, I'd say that the Grox were pretty close to spanning the whole galaxy, don'tcha think?

Second, considering how there are only about 400 billion stars in the universe, this rule becomes silly not only in light of dyson spheres, but also after a mere moment's consideration. There are currently seven billion people on this planet, so let's say that by the time we start colonizing other planets we've gone up to ten billion. If we were to repeat the same mistakes on other planets that led to us needing to leave Earth in the first place, then we humans would only need to amass forty planets before we meet the threshold you've set. And that's just with _us humans_; something smaller and that breed much more rapidly (like say, the ecological equivalent of a sapient rabbit), could well come to _double_ the number of stars in the universe before even leaving the civilization stage.

Considering that the distance from the sun to the Earth is only 93 million miles, the "trillion mile ship" rule is entirely valid, however.

Thank you for your feedback. Unfortunately, you have made a couple of key errors in the points that you have brought up.
  • In-game, the Grox control a tiny percentage of the galaxy's systems, and are concentrated within the galactic centre. Neither in terms of star count nor coverage could their empire be described as "spanning an entire galaxy". There are far better examples even within the fiction universe; the point is that such empires are greatly discouraged, not forbidden as a matter of principle: we'll likely be suspicious of a newcomer who wishes to rapidly claim such large territories, because this gives the impression that they're treating the fictionverse as though it's a game to be won rather than a collaborative writing effort.
  • There are about 400 billion stars in our galaxy. You need to increase that by a factor of about a trillion to reach the number of stars in the observable universe. Furthermore, you could have simply looked at pretty much any large nation within the fiction universe to see that populations in the quadrillions are routinely reached. Exceeding the number of stars in the universe is still not impossible - it takes 50 doublings of a population to get from 1 billion to past 1 septillion, and taking a century or so for a population to double in size is hardly inconceivable - but, again, we'd rather people not just throw around large numbers without good justification.
GirdoPic Ghelae - (talk) 10:03, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, It's not that I see it as a game to be won rather than a collaborative writing effort, quite the opposite in fact. The rule made it look like it was a game to be played fairly and equally within a set of rules rather than a place to let your inner writer shine and run wild. Having read your response, I now understand perfectly and retract my complaint. No OP or K3 civilizations.

Instead, I now have a separate question. Are we permitted to use creatures with modded parts, such as in the Darkinjection Mod? 2001:4930:56:0:420:D43A:A67D:13E4 18:59, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, you are permitted to use any Spore mods. See the collaborator's kit for the most popular ones. And btw, you'll find a good section of the community use speculative SF and futurism concepts like dyson swarms and star lifting, to name a few. --WormulWormulon Talk to me 21:18, March 4, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. So another question. Into how much detail as regards the reproductive process am I permitted to go? I'm ean I'd be able to go pretty far while still keeping it PG and purely scientific.2001:4930:56:0:51B8:8F0E:922A:51DE 04:44, March 5, 2018 (UTC)

To anyone else reading this, I was able to get this question answered by going directly to some Admins. I am free to write as much as I like in this regard.Skadooshbag (talk) 00:43, March 8, 2018 (UTC)

Some questions Edit

Hi. I have some questions about the fiction universe:

  • I remember reading somewhere in the rules (not in this page, but on the main one) that we should not "break the fourth wall" (hinting that the fiction is actually a fiction inside it), but I've seen many users do it in the Trivia section of their pages. Is that OK?
  • I've seen some users have categories just for their fiction. Can we make our own too or is it some sort of special privilege for important fictions?
  • Is there any infobox template for buildings and structures? And for non-war events?

Thank you. But I forgot to include another question: can we include Maxis creations in our fiction? Like, give them a notable role on them rather than just mentioning them. Also, I forgot to sign the message before. Sorry again... Dinoman972 (talk) 09:59, March 26, 2018 (UTC)

Yes you can, Maxis races appear quite frequently in fictions where users were fond of the space stage. The in-universe explanation is that they all have a vast diaspora across the Gigaquadrant, so there are no restrictions as to using factions of them. --WormulWormulon Talk to me 10:47, March 26, 2018 (UTC)
If you've not found it already, you can see a list of Maxis creatures in the fictionverse, and which fictions they're part of, here. Granted, it's not usually helpful in telling you which ones have a major role and which ones merely add to some nations' lists of species. GirdoPic Ghelae - (talk) 07:44, March 27, 2018 (UTC)
Ok, thank you. Dinoman972 (talk) 08:38, March 27, 2018 (UTC)


OK, so it's me again. Hi! I have another doubt about fiction. I've noticed there is an infobox template for moons, but at least at first glance it's nearly the same as the planet one. I also noticed many moons actually use the "Planet:" namespace and probably the infobox, despite sattelites not being accurately planets. If I was to make a moon, should I use the planet namespace and infobox, or the fiction namespace with the moon infobox? Dinoman972 (talk) 08:23, March 28, 2018 (UTC)

You are not restricted to any of the content namespaces, you may put a moon (or a character, vehicle etc.) in the fiction namespace, and then manually add the appropriate infobox. The reason we use generic namespaces like Planet: (for terrestrial bodies, including moons), and even Captain: (for characters who are not captains) is to reflect their in-game representation as objects or creations in Spore, not their in-universe content. It is a holdover from the days when SporeWiki was more about the encyclopedic representation of Spore, but also we can't have a custom namespace for everything. --WormulWormulon Talk to me 11:50, March 28, 2018 (UTC)
Ok, thank you. Dinoman972 (talk) 14:09, March 28, 2018 (UTC)