Transmission from the Kraw Galaxy Groxic Colony Edit
We are the Kraw Galaxy Groxic Colony, a colony your pathetic Empire has forgotten a long time ago. We hate you because of your Xenophobic ways, and we don't want to be a part of it! We are tired of people from outside our galaxy confusing us for you! You horrible species! Ever since we allied the beautiful Asgord we have gotten threats of destruction, specially from the DCP! ENHOUGH! We declare formal independence from your pathetic Empire, as we are now the KGGC, no longer we will be part of the Grox Empire. We will wait patiently for a reply.
- President Ekrixx of the KGGC
Gooflawwb Error<Grox to Kraw translation>Good ridence, your smell burned our cybernetic nostrils, our plan was to decieve and destroy you with the KGGC, if it was not for those meddeling DCP we would have initiated it soon. However, our warfleet prepares, millions strong, and with the help of the Grox from other galaxies, we will wipe the scourge of the galaxy. --Grox
WE ARE THE GROX, SURRENDER YOUR SHIPS AND LOWER YOUR SHIELDS, YOU WILL BE EXTERMINATED, RESISTENCE IS FUTILE!--Grox 13:50, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
Redoing the Grox Empire page Edit
I originally wrote on here about changes to the "Timeline" section, but there are a few other issues to deal with as well, so I've made them all (okay, both) subsections of one topic. I haven't made a subtopic for changing the "relationships with other empires" and "quotes from other empires" sections (yet), since I think they'll only need to undergo a massive update rather than a complete overhaul. Ghelae - (talk) 15:13, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
Since the Grox and the Humans are the two races that can be considered as being the collective property of all SporeWiki reality fiction writers, they both need to be sorted out into something that we can all agree with. Humanity already has a page for this purpose, so I'll start the Grox discussion here now. We should start at the timeline, so here's my idea for it, based on what's already on the page:
- 6 billion years ago: The Grox' ancestors, the Grob, appear - the first sapient species to evolve naturally in this universe. They manage to survive the vicious fauna native to their homeworld entirely by developing superior intelligence. At some point, they develop cybernetic implants which they use to increase their weak physical abilities, and become the Grox. They quickly create a large spacefaring empire, centred around the core of their home galaxy where they harvest the energy of the supermassive black hole there.
- Between 6 and 5.5 billion years ago: The Grox play a major part in the Taldar extinction.
- 5.5 billion years ago: The Grox colonise other galaxies, surrounding the cores there. Using their vastly superior technology, they destroy any new civilisations that they perceive to be a threat, and enter a golden age.
- Between 5 billion and 1 million years ago: The Grox become complacent and isolationist, their technological development stagnates, and other empires build up around their territories. In some galaxies, they fight wars against large civilisations such as the Xynaxes and Krassio, but the original reasons for these conflicts have been lost to history. They also fight against the Xhodocto, with several thousand galaxies being cleansed of Grox each Scourge, but the Grox are so numerous that some always survive somewhere and manage to rebuild their empire again.
- Around 1 million years ago: The Grox become paranoid and xenophobic of their neighboring empires, and launch pre-emptive strikes, starting the first universal Grox Wars. Over time, the Grox forget about their original paranoia, and come to believe that they are the superior beings and that all other life deserves to be eradicated.
- A few thousand to 14 years ago: The Grox Wars result in the downfall of the Grox as many races develop superior technology and remove the Grox from their galaxies. Although the Grox survive unharmed in some, they take heavy losses in others and are outright destroyed in many more. Eventually, the Grox are almost exterminated by the Xhodocto in the Tigris War, leaving them inhabiting only a few galaxies in the First Gigaquadrant.
New Grox Empire
- 14 years ago: The Grox put "Project Upgrade" into place, improving their technology in order to make them once more a threat to their enemies. Some Grox, believing themselves to be the last of their kind (and they almost are), flee to "Universe 66501". They expand the Grox forces by their own experiences there.
- 5 years ago: When they discover that some of the old Grox Empire survived in the First Gigaquadrant, the Grox evacuees return to the Plazith Rim and their new data and troops add to "Project Upgrade".
- Last few months: Suspicious activity is noted by various empires - the Grox recall their entire armed forces to their colonies in order to upgrade them with new technology. This is further enhanced thanks to the Tokzhalan Empire, who have reverse-engineered technology from numerous other civilisations - the most powerful ones including the Daleks and Xhodocto.
- Now: The New Grox Wars begin.
There are a few other things to sort out - why they naturally only survive in T0 environments (the "oxygen is toxic to them" theory is my favourite), why they decided to get cybernetics in the first place, whether they were punished or affected in any way because of their part in the Taldar extinction, etc - but other than that, I think it's okay. Are there any other problems with it that I haven't noticed? Ghelae - (talk) 14:10, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Right. Well... there's no explanation on this page as to why they live on T0 planets, so we can probably just say that it's a matter of their natural biology due to the course of their evolution. I suppose for the Taldar extinction, the Taldar probably destroyed most of their colonies, so the Grox ended up having to expand to their former glory (and beyond) over the next few million years. And I think that's it. Does anybody have anything to say? Including agreements, if there's nothing wrong with it... Ghelae - (talk) 19:35, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
Grox Fleet Edit
The new Grox Imperial Fleet is presumably going to be very different from the one currently on the page. I'm going to go through all of the ship classes and say what I think about them:
- Grox Mothership
- Should probably stay, but may be redesigned (or, at the very least, we need to get a better screenshot of it).
- Only one ship, probably not even part of an actual ship class (e.g. it might have been a makeshift craft, built out of the remains of old ships, as the Grox may have found themselves doing during the Tigris War) but we'd have to ask Imperios about that. It won't likely be part of the new Grox Fleet; if it's mentioned on the ships list (instead of just being in the history section, which if it's a unique craft would be the best place for it) we might end up needing a "retired ship classes" subsection.
- Cruel Hand of the Grox
- It would be Wormulon's decision whether or not to keep this ship. Only a few of them existed before "Project Upgrade", but I don't whether they ended up becoming a major ship class or not. If not, and if most of the Plazith Rim Cruel Hands are lost in the New Grox Wars, then they might be put out of service in favour of other ships. All other possibilities would mean that they should stay, though.
- Grox Warship
- It's staying. However, the idea of different types of Warship will have to be modified. At most, I think there should be Warships and Fighters, and they would be different in size and not 615 metres long with the only differences being HP.
- Grox Dreadnought
- Should receive the same treatment as the Mothership.
Also, there'll need to be a bit about the ground troops (i.e. Conqrix). Then there's the new Grox developments reported by intelligence forces - "Super Star Destroyer"-type ships reported by the Girdo Empire, and giant robots reported by the Vartekians - then that should be it. So, does anybody have any thoughts about any of this? Ghelae - (talk) 15:13, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
My original Cruel Hand was made over a year ago, I am far more skilled in the editor, so I might have another go. They are minor ships, I wouldn't mind if they were put out of service and placed in retired ships. Perhaps they get destroyed as you said. I think I might try and re-edit/colour the Mothership to V2 status. Wormulon Talk to me 15:23, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
Sounds good to me! BTW, all the Hands of Death were destroyed in a bloody battle in which the DCP lost over 600,000 ships. I might still use them occasionally though. Wormulon Talk to me 10:52, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
Fleet moved to a sub page? Edit
Should the Imperial Fleet page be sub paged instead? I'd say yes; it's huge. Although I'd also say keep some of the information on the page, such as a gallery for big ships, one for small ships etc and just a sentence about each one. Agree?-- Technobliterator TC 21:53, April 25, 2011 (UTC)
- Yes. The fleet section takes up nearly half of the entire page. Ghelae - (talk) 06:13, April 26, 2011 (UTC)
the Followers of the Grox Edit
Yet Another King!! Edit
I was hoping i could create a king of the Grox in the Mirus Galaxy.They'd still be part of the Meta Empire,But he'd kinda serve the smae purpose as Mirras. Zillafire101
Incoming transmission from the Followers of the Grox Edit
Hail the gods!we have gotten wind of your mission in the A-Galaxy to re-claim your home,And we just want to tell you,that Grox Follower Commandoes and Troopers are awaiting your orders to rip the eniemy apart.For the GROX EMPEROR!!
Grob Evolution Edit
The page says the Grobs were very weak and could barely survive againts predators. Then, how could the evolve to have such an intelligence to develop their robotic parts without natural selection finishing them? 19:20, April 12, 2016 (UTC)
Two things. Firstly, I don't normally like saying humans are weak (because in many ways we are not), but compared to all members of Carnivora for example, all are highly specialised for killing. Many of them are stronger, faster, sneakier and can see better than us at night; an unarmed human does not stand a chance (especially when caught unaware). But it is not Carnivorans that are most successful mammal on the planet, it is us. No one is really sure how human intelligence evolved, but we are social creatures that evolved behaviours like communication to survive. The dynamics of adaptation, population and so on are very complex. So secondly, let us rid the notion that natural selection always acts on weak or "unfit" populations or organisms, instead it acts on genes that leave most copies of themselves in contrast to rivals. There are many biological features that make a species unfit and more likely to be eaten, like the Peacock's feathers that genes select for, because they have an effect of showing off the Peacocks's reproductive viability. So there we have it, humans survived because we were social animals and gradually increased our set of behaviours (and many other things too, becoming endurance hunters), but we never needed to become especially strong compared to predators and perhaps at our expense. No reason why that can't be true for the Grob... --Wormulon Talk to me 20:47, April 12, 2016 (UTC)
native ecosystem extermination? Edit
If the Grox exterminated the entire ecosystem on their home planet, then what the heck do the folks still living there eat?
- I don't know, but I don't think cell-cultured food or even synthesised macronutrients are beyond their knowledge. --Wormulon Talk to me 20:27, March 5, 2018 (UTC)
everybody knows that the most powerful empire is knot the grawx by default thanks to their almighty ability to disguise themselves as knot the grawx, this is false information. Yakkorinio (talk) 19:58, November 1, 2018 (UTC)