Thread:Ecoraptor3339/@comment-5496489-20171102142934/@comment-4225622-20171210073747

@Crimson - Well, not to many Irish are actually loyal to the crown, and the Northern Irish are kind of a strange case, being made up of Scots and English immigrants after Cromwell wiped and drove out the Irish form Ulster and the like, so they're not really "true" Irish, though the Scots are descended form the ancient Celts of Ireland that traveled in Caledonia and the like, and clash and then interbreed with the Picts, so kinda depends on how you look at things. Its either they're not true Irish, or a little home-coming after thousands of years away.

The last vote for Scottish independence was very close, and, as far as I can tell, the only thing keeping the Scots from voting again after the Brexit shenanigans is the fact the Scottish Independent party lost a large number of seats in the last election, hamstringing their powerbase. The Scots also joined the English under negotiation, and although there is still some bad blood, it was less enslavement then what the Irish were put through. That's why, when compared to say, India, South Africa, America, Canada or Ireland, the Scots, despite having many chances, still remain with the Union.

The Gurkhas were defiantly treated better then many others by Colonial England, such as receiving good food, and also receiving medication and supplies to keep themselves healthy. Gurkhas, don't forget, also have tendency towards pragmatism. Sure, warriors they may be, but when the British Empire shows up, with colonial forces they can muster from Scotland, Wales, Ireland, and elsewhere, you may want to rethink going head to head.

Now that may be a tricky thing to say. The US is certainly not perfect, but don't forget the British Empire defiantly had scope and magnitude. Atrocities against the Native Americans may have been common, but there were atrocities against the Indians, Irish, South Africans and others were spread all across the world. I won't say that either was perfect, but the British Empire did have good points. Don't forget, a lot of democratic systems, such as India's owe their existence to English ideals, slavery was banned by vote, rather then war, and the Gurkhas have received medication and modern medicine for their usually harsh existence that didn't give them the chance to receive such things. I didn't like the British Empire, and I think Europe is better off without a bunch of crazy empires, but there were benefits.