Thread:The Randomness/@comment-25932182-20140817022041

Hi, I would wish to point out several things that I found a little incorrect about your argument, if you don't mind. I post it here so as to avoid the forum from getting off-topic.

"Ever since its establishment they have expressed a desire to keep their little sector isolated from the rest of the universe"

We never wanted to stay "isolated from the rest of the universe", we where perfectly open to outside contact and expansion into the greater gigaquadrant; We only kept most great powers out due to the fact that the sector should be for smaller fictions and less advanced ones; A superpower with a physical presence would throw that off entirely.

"...and would react with incredible hostility to the fact that they share the same universe as anyone else."

See above.

"In order to justify themselves, they claim that there's a supposed group of people out to get them, most notably the admins."

I'm curious as to when we ever claimed this. I agree that most recently the users behind the "Xonexi Allies" (Which includes many people besides the Katarians) have butted heads with several admins, but the Katarians in any form have never "justified themselves" through the hatred and rivalry of another group.

"Obviously, not everyone in the group is guilty of this, but at least one user has proven to be consistently belligerent. That user is Clanden/Angrybirds. Anything that goes contrary to his opinions/plans is thrown away and then we see him lashing out at other members of the wiki, claiming elitism and cliques where the only notable clique on this wiki is his own. This has done nothing but alienate users involved in the SWverse and possibly even demotivate them from staying involved in it."

There is very little proof for anything you have said besides hearsay. When facing criticism during the entirety of this event he has responded calmly, tactfully and respectfully. Granted, he has a different way of roleplaying and writing (which contrasts with others' styles), but I've been beside him, planning fiction and during this entire controversy and not once has he displayed any of the above, or has had any hostile intent.

If anyone has been "lashing out" or has been displaying brash behavior it would have been me, one of his friends. Which I fully admit to and apologize for.

"claiming elitism and cliques where the only notable clique on this wiki is his own."

He never claimed elitism. And we all agree that factions exist inadvertantly.

"All of this culminated into a huge amount of drama yesterday over an in-universe disagreement. Why? It is a combination of both this and the fact that we have become too scared to talk about contentious issues or confront other users about issues that we may have in an appropriate matter. Instead, we opt to let all this pressure out in huge, dramatic bursts that aren't healthy at all. We used to be able to plan large events openly, but that is not the case any longer. Now we feel like we need to do everything in private, lest somebody take issue with it."

I have little to say for this, I agree for the most part.

"Now we also see demands for a new administrator merely for representation of this same group. That is no reason to promote somebody to an admin, and goes against what an admin's job is supposed to be."

My theory was that adminship did equal power and social status. Is this right? Is this at all a good thing? No. But it is how it is, unfortunately and that isn't really easy to change. I felt that new admins from former "factions" would closer bring together the more disillusioned groups and mend divisions.

"This behavior is childish, and does not contribute to a sense of community at all. Throwing a tantrum is not an appropriate way to react to anything, especially when all it does is leave you in your own echo room to hear nothing but you stating your own beliefs and opinions that you wish to impose onto others."

Our group (especially AB) responded to criticism quite well on the main chat especially.

"In the end, the admins have the final say on things. If you wish to dispute their decision, go ahead, but keep in mind that their decision is final."

I don't necessarily agree with this statement, though by saying this it really only reforces my theory that adminship equals power and social status.

Just wanted to get a few misconceptions out of the way. 