Talk:Grox

Allying
There should be a section about allying with The Grox here. I did it with: +50 from quests, +50 from breaking galactic code (using planet buster), +25 from friendly tools (using the super happy ray), +10 from gifts, and +5 from agreeing to help. I think that this is the only way to ally with them, but you might be able to get some + from trade after you are already blue with them. I tried to use an embassy on their planet, but I didn't get + from it until I was already allied with them. They don't stop sending ships to attack you until you are allied with them. I hope this information is useful. Bobokapi 20:21, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I have placed that image in this page's appropriate section and the Dance with the Devil article. Demonsul 13:20, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

editing the grox
on the page it says you can edit the grox with the in game creature editor how do i do that? --Groxkiller82 13:52, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Im guessing you use the Creature Tweaker, but that will probably not work, TBH. Demonsul 13:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I have tried to use the creature tweaker and it doesn't work on the Grox. Bobokapi 20:34, 25 September 2008 (UTC) You have to Cheat to edit them

No, you simply have to drag the Grox png into the creature editor. The png is in the article. 14:46, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

You HAVE to cheat

No, you do not. Draging the image of the Grox into the creature editor is not cheating, and it lets you edit the Grox. Try it yourself. 16:12, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

You do not have to cheat. I edited the Grox (search reformed Grox on sporepedia) and I have never entered a cheat in Spore. --Demonsul 16:28, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Then how did you save the edits? you cant save the grox!


 * Yes you can. Look at http://www.sporebase.com/9.html on how to save them. >Tmy2u 10:08, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

159.250.29.4 20:28, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

I cant play as the Grox! Why?

unfortunatley, you Have to hack to play as them, you may edit them but to play as them you have to hack, go 2 www.sporebase.com, go to hacking guide and select grox hack, download the grox png, then follow the instructions, that is the ONLY way you can play as the grox, it is because they have illegal parts, i did it, and you can go to downloads there, hack things, and you can also download other grox stuff there, it may seem difficult but its possible, you also MUST start in tribal or it will not work 159.250.29.4 14:10, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

oops forgot to say this, you can edit the grox before you save and continue so that you can make your own borg creature and it will actually save and you will get to play as it 159.250.29.4 14:14, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

I can't find the Tsearch thing that the site is talking about. How do I find it? The problem is probably the computer I'm using. 12.32.58.75 16:29, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

The Grox's Badges
If possible, can someone post pictures of the "Dance with the Devil" and "Badge Outta Heck" badges? They are very important to the article, since defeating or allying with The Grox are very hard, but possible! Also, this would make people stop mistaking badges with achievements. OluapPlayer 23:41, 01 October 2008 (UTC)

I have added images of the Dance With the Devil Badge icon and description here.



Bobokapi 02:25, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Taxonomy for the Grox?
I want your opinion to this. The Grox, evil and mechanical or not, are still a creature. I wanted to know if we shrould do a taxonomy for the Grox too... OluapPlayer 23:57 16 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I think we should. Perhaps dropping them in a 'cyborg' phylum.


 * Yeah. But I am not sure what exacly they are :P They look mammal, but they have reptile mouths. Does this make then synapsids? OluapPlayer 15:50 20 October 2008 (UTC)

I suggest we classify them as either reptile or mammal (probably reptile. Anyone know the Grox's skin covering, as we don't know other reptile features, e.g. Ectothermic?), as the implants are created by them, thus they aren't truly body parts. And yeah, I know I'm not part of the Taxonomy project, but it's just a suggestionHaghog999 10:01, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

But I think they are mammals. Their mouth line it is not only reptile, but also dog's. And they have fur, and they have incredible brain(all know than mammals are smarter than others.) So... They are mammals. Imperios 15:38, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Reptile mouth, mammal body. They are therapsids. OluapPlayer 15:41, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

But then there is another problem, you cannot be for sure they are reptile mouths, they could be mammal mouths, im going with them being a carnivoran, as they have mostly mammalian features. 159.250.29.4 15:43, 5 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The Grox have the first mouth of the reptile carnivore set. The mammal mouths are all herbivore. OluapPlayer 21:33, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

But you can not be sure that they are reptile carnivore mouths, they could also be mammal carnivore mouths, and there are omnivore primate mouths, and primates are mammals. really for me the type of mouth just doesnt specify the type of creature, i mean the "reptile" mouths are used for generic carnivores, not just reptiles 159.250.29.4 13:47, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

In short, imperios is correct, they are mammals 159.250.29.4 20:10, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Wow, what you have against therasids? If the Grox had another mouth, they would be in another tax, but since the mouths were made to be reptile-like (a proof is the third mouth, which is a crocodile) and the mouth is an important part of the taxoomy of a creature, I think it is right to classify them as therapsids.


 * Grox, a problem in and outside the game =D OluapPlayer 21:47, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

im not against therapsids, but im against the idea of them being therapsids, your second quote was right, Gar' Skuther is Cooler anyways :P p.s shouldnt Gar' Skuther have a taxon anyway? 159.250.29.4 13:21, 13 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know. I guess tax for Spore Creatures' characters shroud be discussed in the Taxonomy Project's talk page. I think it would be cool. OluapPlayer 14:42, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

maybe they're lke whales.Mammal Underwater thing?

No, they are dogs. I try to create dogs with every mouth in "reptile" carnivore set,including even 3rd, and they were great! Look!

Anybody think that they are therapsids? Imperios 11:57, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

They're therapsids. If you all paid more attention to small features such as the teeth style, which is totally not a mammal's, you'd classify them as therapsids right away. Poeringu 13:42, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey! Teeth is only way to mae them therapsids. The ALL OTHER is mammal's. Imperios 20:38, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I know I shouldn't be rude, but I have to say it. If you want to argue if they're therapsids or not, and you also want to say I don't have many proofs they're mammo-reptilians, at least try to write things right. They have a snake-like head, just so you know. Poeringu 21:25, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

What you say is just making them more thrapsid. Therapsid are "the most mammal" of the synapsids. OluapPlayer 16:23, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

You aren't being rude :| Snake-like head in a mammal body makes them therapsids to me, BTW. OluapPlayer 22:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I was answering Imperios =x Poeringu 11:33, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

they are creatures. are they carnivores?? they would mosrt of fit in with any mammal taxonomy, but they dont look like reptiles....HerbisoarEmpire 03:17, 13 February 2009 (UTC)HerbisoarEmpire

Technically, none of the creatures in Spore evolved on Earth, so wouldn't the grox not really fit into ANY catagory? It's just a thought. 12.32.58.75 15:54, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Are They more powerful?
I installed patch 3 and the grox seem to be tougher and harder! has this happened to anyone else?

159.250.29.4 20:26, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

I have patch 3, but I have not noticed much difference, however, I am invading the Grox Empire and the further I get through to the core, the more powerfull they seem to get. The outer colonies Grox are weaker than the inner colonies. Wormulon 15:19, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Well im really close to the core and was a bit rusty so forget this 159.250.29.4 15:25, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Why?
Why are they called Grox if in the game the creature's name is The Grox? Grox is the name of their spaceship, not the creature. OluapPlayer 11:02, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I think its because calling them "The Grox" every time you said their name could be difficult to word with correct grammar, they are called The Grox so it reads The Grox Empire in the communication screen and that they are doppelgangers of The Borg 159.250.29.4 13:19, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Think of "Grox" as the race name and "the Grox" as a name of their civillization. If we had a page about both, we might have wanted to call them that. However, we have just one, so we use "Grox". 14:42, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

You have a pretty good point there, Ose, but i mean Maxis probably called them The Grox because it sounds cool, i just call them Grox or Grox Empire Anyways Grox sounds better than Borg In my Opinion, still dont know why they would call the spaceship Grox, I call it Grox Greiver becaus just Grox for the name of a spaceship sounds wierd 159.250.29.4 14:50, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


 * But the creatures' NAME is The Grox! You can see it clearly at Sporepedia! OluapPlayer 20:24, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I Honestly have no idea why, i think Ose had the best reason why, but why they would bother to put a "The" at the front of the Name is beyond me, why don't we ask Maxis ourselves? 159.250.29.4 18:19, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Ose is right. They named it The Grox so that it would be The Grox Empire. The Grox would be their civilization name, but as a species name is the civilization name, they named it The Grox. Poeringu 12:46, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, I give up. :/ I just wanted the page to have the creature's real name, but let's forget this... OluapPlayer 15:32, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I think that "The Grox" is what you would say for more than one of them like; mice or things like that where as "Grox" is singular like if you said "It's a Grox" it sounds fine "its a The Grox" makes no sense--Dark Noo Noo 11:31, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Good point, I just consider them mammal's, you can't call a species reptiles purely on it's mouth alone.(Armageddon11(DANIELSJ14) 15:38, 5 February 2009 (UTC))

No one is calling them reptiles, we classified them as the more mammal-like of the synapsids. Also, why discussing here and not on the tax section? :P OluapPlayer 15:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

I had a look at the Taxon you gave The Grox, and I can see where you are all coming from, but still not all creatures givin a "reptile" mouth should be classafied as some sort of Synapsida, that would be very impratical. (Armageddon11(DANIELSJ14) 02:28, 16 February 2009 (UTC))

Revert...
Um, so I was reading the difference backwards, for some reason...ignore that revert thing. 02:15, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

The grox's master
I think there master ill be some boss fight in the center of the galaxy whe you get to have a turret and shoot at the grox and their master or you might just shoot them and anti-matter missls could do 1000 damge and they could have 100000 health

sorry, that is not what happens, go see for yourself 24.60.143.148 00:12, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

that wouldn't be good for spore.Spore Doesn't go with Boss levels and plus We had a hard enough time getting through the Grox in the first.That's be stupid! 86.2.197.189 13:18, 24 January 2009 (UTC)BAMitsAl

Homeworld
In my game the Grox's Homeworld (The planet from where you receive Grox Bribe messages and Alliance Offerings) is the Agavicea planet, in the Cephylea system. And in yours? Poeringu 12:43, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't remember the star's name, but the planet was called "Mimas" in my game. OluapPlayer 12:46, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Mine is Planet Leynas in the Anduras system. 159.250.29.4 12:59, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Mine was a planet in the Jular System.HerbisoarEmpire 20:02, 16 February 2009 (UTC)HerbisoarEmpire

I used the Staff of Life on the Grox homeworld! Wormulon 22:09, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Once Deman I. Imperios 20:43, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Proof
I'm sorry, but a lot of this article is unverified claims. How do we know that the Grox existed before any other sapient species? Please post your proof here. 24.150.143.48 19:35, 13 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Look at other empires. They are SMALL compared to the Grox. The reason for the Grox's large empire is that they have been around for millions and millions of years. This also is true due to the fact that the galaxy is rotating around the galactic core. The Grox May have come from one of those planets as the galaxy was forming, thus being among the first to reach stage= only that the Grox annihilated those species as they expanded. >Tmy2u 8:09, 14 January 200( (UTC)


 * Also, their empire value doesn't show up, meaning its much higher than 5. The empire tier value shows an empire's size and how much time it has been around. Poeringu 22:37, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Strange, they appear as a 5-star empire in my games. OluapPlayer 22:42, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The Grox also exist while your creatures are in creature mode, meaning they have been sentient for millions of years before you reach space. Gyromite 01:44, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The Grox in the Creature Stage: http://www.xfire.com/video/6e514/ >Tmy2u 18:59, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

they seem to think of your empire as small and new compared to them... and they control alot of star systems.HerbisoarEmpire 03:17, 13 February 2009 (UTC)HerbisoarEmpire

The point of the Grox

 * An obstacle for the player
 * All good space adventures need an evil species
 * Spore is all about placing life in a lifeless galaxy, the grox are there to destroy it
 * They are there to prevent the player from getting to the Galactic core

Anymore ideas ? Wormulon 10:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


 * To provide the ultimate challenge for both Militaristic or Diplomatic players? Thanks, TimeMaster Talk Main Contribs


 * They are just there to give the stubborn players a goal in the game. in my opinion.DanceWithTheDevil 01:11, 29 January 2009 (UTC)


 * To provide players a challgenge, and to hide a great reward, kinda like 'bosses' in other video games. Gyromite 05:24, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

They seem to oppose life, and want to destroy empires and provide an obstacle to the Galactic Core.They seem to attack and raid for the fun of it. attacking T2 and t3 planets they cant colonize....maybe they are the "bad guys"HerbisoarEmpire 00:56, 14 February 2009 (UTC)HerbisoarEmpire

To protect the Galaxy, mainly Center from impostor from other races. Imperios 20:43, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

The Grobb vs the Grox
Before Spore was released, somehow, infomation was leaked and several outdated forums speculated about the Grox. This indicates Grox may have once been called the Grobb. Wormulon 23:24, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Where is the link? Fail. :) I am interested in this, links or no holiday card this year! >tmy2u 12:54 6 February 2009

Just simply type in Grobb, and you will find loads of really old forums that came out before Spore did. I don't know how this infomation was leaked. Wormulon 11:15, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I think Maxis had something to do with it. I read that somewhere. Also, google Grobb and Spore together. If not, you must like Everquest. A heads up for those that follow. >tmy2u 10:34 8 February 2009

The Mod
Exactly how do I use it? Gaz Lloyd 18:30, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Uh.................. What mod?

Put it in "C:\Program Files (x86)\Electronic Arts\SPORE\Data", without the (x86) for XP users. >tmy2u 18:40, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Incedentally, for Vista the (x86) is missing also (at least it is for me). You may need administrator privaledges to move it in Vista too, for those that ask in future. Thanks again. Gaz Lloyd  19:16, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

how do you drag PNG images,I knew but forgot.

i think you drag them from the Sporepedia to the file of "Data" in the Spore file.HerbisoarEmpire 03:20, 13 February 2009 (UTC)HerbisoarEmpire

Close. You drag the PNG from where ever into the proper creator. >tmy2u 16:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Grox. Evil or not?
Most of people think that grox are evil. They are not, as i think. They DO NOT attack you at first sight, if they were evil, they will be attacking empires just for fun. The other empires that attacked by grox simply attacked them. They simply very territorial, and do not trust strangers. How YOU think? Imperios 20:17, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps the Grox take on that evil to protect the core, because they live on T0 planets thus they a scared of every race destroying them with their own Staff of Life. They destroyed my home planet Tarcus '''THEY ARE EVIL!!!!!!! '''. Wormulon 20:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

You attacked them if they do. If you give them 10000§, they are not attack you.

In a different game I allied with them but every other empire claimed war. Either way it is the Grox or the rest of the galaxy. Wormulon 21:31, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

But if you are neutral with them? Imperios 12:51, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

The first time I met them they destroyed my ship before I could attack. Once you meet them, attack them or not they will still raid and destroy your colonies. And thay will still shoot at your ship even if you are friends with them. Wormulon 13:51, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Multi-sided attack??
might it be possible to wipe out the grox by attacking from multiple files?

Makes sense to me. Oh and eeryone always gets angry with people who don't sign their comments. You use four of these (~) 12.32.58.75 15:59, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

sorryOmnipotentdracoptyx 17:12, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes I fight the Grox with all of my Saved Games Wormulon 17:41, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Origin of the Grox
Is it possible that the Grox are the failed experiments of humans? cuz we think that humans existed (see Steve). Might the Grox have killed off the humans? TheCreaturenator16 04:24, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Or, as I pointed out earlyer, maybe humans evoved into the Grox. While the taxonomy isn't there, it makes some sense: Very intelegent creature, phisically weak, lots of technology. It is a bit of a strech, but maybe. 12.32.58.75 06:05, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

And then our fingers combined, giving us crappy grip and no abilities, same with the legs, and our head is replaced by a mouth, with eyes, and long pointy ears. Sorry, we can't de-evolve THAT fast. (what else would you call it? a normal human has a lot better stats than the Grox) tmy2u 06:19, 23 February 2009 (UTC)