Board Thread:Wiki Discussion/@comment-1073312-20140816013529/@comment-1309126-20140816231552

Building up on what I said earlier;

Even in the start of 2010 we had wiki factionalism. Right up including now we have this factionalised wiki; why?

Factionalisation on the wiki is the reason why the wiki is still standing.

You can't imagine what the wiki would be like if everyone had equal involvement. Sounds great on paper, but, let's take an ideological infrastructure like Communism; Communism falls apart very quickly as soon as a person has a brighter and more popular idea than the rest. So? What I think the problem is? Certain users. Back in 2011, when users caused problems, admins banned them. The fact we're having this issue still is because we're all thinking it's a wiki issue. Take a look back; the wiki has always had user factions on it, hierarchies included and we never had a problem until users thought it was a problem. From what I've discussed, there's a massive difference between inclusion and disruption.

Truthfully there's nothing stopping a well-mannered user from including themselves in another faction; it's happened before and has happened many times. Disruption is the problem. Whether we as a wiki have gone soft on users who cause problems I have no idea, but perhaps it's time we bare our teeth and end this stupid discussion. 2014 is when this problem started and 2009 - 2013 were perfectly fine with no change to the wiki whatsoever. The wiki now is exactly what it has been since 2009. Just larger.

Here's the brutal and terrible truth; if you can't include yourself and you can't cross factions, you're not trying hard enough.