Talk:Achievements

Hidden Achievements
I've taken a personal interest in the achievements page, especially the hidden achievements. I've confirmed that the ones listed are all obtainable. For example you can check http://www.spore.com/view/achievements/jedimaster to see that Bad Baby! is a real achievement. The last one is a real mystery. I wrote a script to trawl the spore.com achievement pages looking for it and it hasn't found anything in two days of looking. I'm beginning to thing nobody has it yet. Consequentially, I'm going to be a little picky about that part of the list. If you add something to it you should include the username of someone who has the achievement in your edit description.
 * So is there only one Hidden Achievement missing from the list? If so we should change the text so it says "There are 9 hidden achievements.".  I was the one who wrote 10, but I wasn't sure if that was the right number, thus the questionmark.  Obandsoller 15:04, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I disagree, there were 10 ?s at the beginning of the game, therefore there are 10 hidden acheivements. Just because we don't know what the tenth one is doesn't mean there's only nine. ErzengelLichtes 16:42, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That wasn't what I meant. I was unsure of how many hidden achievements there were, because by the time I started editting I'd already got some of them.  Thanks for confirming the number 10, I'll delete the question mark now. Obandsoller 17:38, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Browsing some forums, someone had wrote about this 'Kingmaker Kingbreaker- raise a planet from T0 to space age.. then destroy the planet or at least raise it from creature stage to space age then destroy the civilization' That was their exact words, the thread had no replies as of yet however. I'll try and test whether this actually exists or not.
 * I have several T0->Space Age planets, but I've never actually destroyed them. (They have purple spice. The entire point was to have purple spice worlds with 100 storage.) I'll go load in to one that I haven't bought yet and try it.—ErzengelLichtes (Contribs) 16:07, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I was on the wrong side of the galaxy, so I decided to just Staff Of Life, Monolith, wait for space age and Planet Buster. Didn't get an achievement, but I did get an app crash! So I can't say for certain it's not an achievement. I'm going to try again.—ErzengelLichtes (Contribs) 16:32, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * wow, some achievement.
 * OK, I just tried it twice more with the above method (once the spore servers came back up), and it did not give me the achievement. I guess this isn't the missing one. —ErzengelLichtes (Contribs) 18:11, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Finished Testing, the Achievement doesn't appear to exist. Ah well :(
 * Okay, might have actually found the final hidden achievement this time. According to 'Diasflac' on the EA forums, He recieved an achievement for destroying 1000 Grox Worlds (I'm assuming means taking over or just removing the Grox from them) http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/spore-game-discussion/340049-defeated-grox.html. I probably should try to test this one, but 1000 is quite a lot... :P
 * It's well known you don't get an achievement for destroying a number of Grox worlds, you get the Badge Outta Heck badge for destroying them. People have this annoying dendancy to confuse Badges and Achievements and use them interchangably. If you can find someone with an actual achievement in their Achievement's page for destroying 1000 Grox worlds, then I'll retract my statement, but I find it unlikely that people who have defeated the Grox don't have the achievement.—ErzengelLichtes (Contribs) 20:31, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I see. Well, since making an account on the EA forums and asking Diasflac is to much hard work, I'll take the easy option and attempt to destroy the Grox personally. I'll let you know if the 1000 Achievement exists if I manage to get it :)
 * According to his post where he says he defeated the Grox, there was no achievement. Morgoth1145 01:57, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Luddite: Destroy 150 tools belonging to other tribes across multiple games???
 * Well, people have looked at the game files. Luddite is listed in there as an achievement, but so are three or for other things.  The main discovery was that Pathological Cheater has an acievement icon on the spore servers (see below) and Luddite does not.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=926714&topic=45599811 The image seems genuine even if the description may not be. http://www.spore.com/static/war/images/achievements/0x60dd27f.png

Pathological Cheater (Hidden Achievement)
So I'm actually one of the people in the thread here that helped figure this stuff out. The achievement may or may not be real, but it is referenced in an internal game file, and the hex code associated to it is the same as the hex code on the image above, which is hosted on the spore.com servers. The description in the file was "Pathological Cheater" and "Use a cheat 50 times". Its pretty clear that this doesn't work though. So either the image linked above is just old trash, or the achievement is currently broken, and thats why nobody has gotten it. --Castlewise. (That picture is at, again. See the thread for more details.)
 * But in the internal gamefile, there are 102 achievements (don´t remember), and not only 100! So I thing... 1. Spore have more than 100 achievements, or 2. they are just forgotten achievements in the file, that was deleted from the game. like: "Pathological Cheater", "Pollinator" (One of your creations has appeared in 20 other players' universes) and "testAchievement" (A sample achievement accumulator definition). Well this last one, is a TEST one, obvious.. But.. what about Pollinator? And.. I already cheatted hundred times (just for "fun") and didn´t get this achievement... (maybe it's another one of those "rolling thunder" achievements, where they will have to make a patch to fix it!).
 * there is a problem... when you cheat, you DON´T GET achievements! (it´s like "turning off" the achievement in the game)
 * Oh there is definitely a problem. The reason that the missing achievement might be Pathological Cheater, as opposed to one of the other "extra" achievements in the file is that the hex code for Pathological Cheater has a corresponding image file on the spore servers and none of the others do.  This means that there is an image waiting to be included on your spore achievement pages for the Pathological Cheater achievement, but not for any of the other ones, like Pollinator or Body Builder.  It's clearly broken though.  The only other possibility is that the last achievement is something that is cheating related (the icon has a guy hiding a couple of aces up his sleeve) but isn't "cheat 50 times".
 * The description is "Use a cheat more than 50 times", .. maybe it´s to use THE SAME cheat 50 times...
 * Well i think you need to get the joker badge 50 times that could work.
 * Confirmation of this as the final secret achievement | http://www.spore.com/view/achievements/rupertlittlebear 66.27.229.75 18:12, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice. Does this mean get 50 Joker badges or just use a cheat?
 * But how he did that?
 * Get a save game in the space stage, use a cheat and get the joker badge, then exit to main menu without saving. Then do it 49 more times. Worked for me!

I tried to create 50 space age planets, cheat to get the badge and then quit to main menu saving. Didn't worked.

Multiple Completion Achievements
A somewhat cheap, but effective way to do this is to save your game, advance to the next phase, exit to the main menu without saving, reload, advance again, rinse and repeat.

Effects
 * Cell Addict - Finish the Cell stage 25 times.
 * Bestial - Complete the Creature stage 10 times.
 * Tribal - Complete the Tribal stage 10 times.
 * Relentless - Complete the Civilization stage 10 times.


 * Might want to confirm this again, but I did not have these achievements post patch, and using the method described was unable to gain these achievements by doing as described. Most likely the method for recording "completion" was altered in the patch.66.27.229.75 18:23, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll remove the comments until it can be confirmed.


 * Well, I had accidentally gotten one or two of those achievements doing that while trying to make my green/blue/red result be what I wanted. Perhaps it was changed with the patch, someone else will have to check.Morgoth1145 01:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * This 'trick' is what beta testers tend to do to get these sorts of achievements; they need to see if it works quickly, so cheap is good. However, I tried this out before the patch, both saving after getting all the DNA and leveling up 25 times, and also saving when I was 1 DNA away then getting the last DNA 25 times, leveling up to creature each time. However, I did not get the achievement. I haven't tried recently. —ErzengelLichtes (Contribs) 02:14, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I´ve tried this both WITH and WITHOUT the patch, and didn´t work in ANY case.

Universe In A Box
The note on Universe In A Box says "this includes saving a national anthem and using vehicle editor in space age." I disagree. While I cannot prove it, I have never used the vehicle editor in the space age. However, I did make an anthem (I was going to try for Ghetto Blaster). What I know you need to do is use the cell creator, early creature creator, creature creator, tribal outfit creator, city outfit creator, space age outfit creator (this is the one I missed for a while), ground vehicle religious, water vehicle religious, air vehicle religious, ground vehicle economic, water vehicle economic, air vehicle economic, ground vehicle military, water vehicle military, air vehicle military, town hall, entertainment, factory, and finally space ship. Anyone else agree or disagree? —ErzengelLichtes (Contribs) 06:52, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah I think I may have it then. See,  I only made religious vehicles in the civilization phase and then I when I used the vehicle editor in the space phase I got the achievement.  I think its because the editor in the space phase allows you to put all the different types of weapons on your vehicle.  So either you try each of them out individually or you use the colony vehicle editor.


 * I had made each type of civ phase vehicle, air/land/sea for mil/relig/econ. The achievement only popped up for me when I went into the colony vehicle editor.
 * Maybe I did accidentally use it and don't remember. As far as I knew, I didn't use any of the space age designers besides UFO until I noticed there was one for clothing in the "Create" section. When I used it, I got Universe In A Box. But I guess I merely forgot that I used it.—ErzengelLichtes (Contribs) 02:16, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The same for me.— 12:16, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Not for Tips and Tricks for the Achievements
This page should just list all of the achievements, in their categories. It should not be used for tips and tricks. For example, the information listed next to Flight of the Bumblebee is 'very' useful info, but it should be its own article which should be linked from here. -- Dcemuser 18:55, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree. It would make the page much less cluttered, and we could include the achievements image files in a reasonable way. Someone is going to have some work cut out for them though.
 * The image files could be included in a table such as on http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Spice#Spice_Types, with the image on the left, achievement name in the middle, being a link to that achievement's page where tips are, and the description on the right. I would start working on this now, but I don't have the time.  If others think it's a good idea they could start, I'll get to it asap. Morgoth1145 15:04, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Moved all the tips and tricks to individual achievement pages and made links. Please put new tips and tricks in the appropriate article.  For uniformity, please try and keep the format of the pages the same. Morgoth1145 17:44, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Now have made a table for the Hidden achievements as mentioned earlier. Do you think this is an improvement, and worth doing for the entire page?  (For it will be a lot of work.) Morgoth1145 18:48, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it looks much better! Obandsoller 21:56, 1 October 2008 (UTC)