Talk:Achievements/Archive 1

Hidden Achievements
I've taken a personal interest in the achievements page, especially the hidden achievements. I've confirmed that the ones listed are all obtainable. For example you can check http://www.spore.com/view/achievements/jedimaster to see that Bad Baby! is a real achievement. The last one is a real mystery. I wrote a script to trawl the spore.com achievement pages looking for it and it hasn't found anything in two days of looking. I'm beginning to thing nobody has it yet. Consequentially, I'm going to be a little picky about that part of the list. If you add something to it you should include the username of someone who has the achievement in your edit description.
 * So is there only one Hidden Achievement missing from the list? If so we should change the text so it says "There are 9 hidden achievements.".  I was the one who wrote 10, but I wasn't sure if that was the right number, thus the questionmark.  Obandsoller 15:04, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I disagree, there were 10 ?s at the beginning of the game, therefore there are 10 hidden acheivements. Just because we don't know what the tenth one is doesn't mean there's only nine. ErzengelLichtes 16:42, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That wasn't what I meant. I was unsure of how many hidden achievements there were, because by the time I started editting I'd already got some of them.  Thanks for confirming the number 10, I'll delete the question mark now. Obandsoller 17:38, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Browsing some forums, someone had wrote about this 'Kingmaker Kingbreaker- raise a planet from T0 to space age.. then destroy the planet or at least raise it from creature stage to space age then destroy the civilization' That was their exact words, the thread had no replies as of yet however. I'll try and test whether this actually exists or not.
 * I have several T0->Space Age planets, but I've never actually destroyed them. (They have purple spice. The entire point was to have purple spice worlds with 100 storage.) I'll go load in to one that I haven't bought yet and try it.—ErzengelLichtes (Contribs) 16:07, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I was on the wrong side of the galaxy, so I decided to just Staff of Life, Monolith, wait for space age and Planet Buster. Didn't get an achievement, but I did get an app crash! So I can't say for certain it's not an achievement. I'm going to try again.—ErzengelLichtes (Contribs) 16:32, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * wow, some achievement.
 * OK, I just tried it twice more with the above method (once the spore servers came back up), and it did not give me the achievement. I guess this isn't the missing one. —ErzengelLichtes (Contribs) 18:11, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Finished Testing, the Achievement doesn't appear to exist. Ah well :(
 * Okay, might have actually found the final hidden achievement this time. According to 'Diasflac' on the EA forums, He recieved an achievement for destroying 1000 Grox Worlds (I'm assuming means taking over or just removing the Grox from them) http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/spore-game-discussion/340049-defeated-grox.html. I probably should try to test this one, but 1000 is quite a lot... :P
 * It's well known you don't get an achievement for destroying a number of Grox worlds, you get the Badge Outta Heck badge for destroying them. People have this annoying dendancy to confuse Badges and Achievements and use them interchangably. If you can find someone with an actual achievement in their Achievement's page for destroying 1000 Grox worlds, then I'll retract my statement, but I find it unlikely that people who have defeated the Grox don't have the achievement.—ErzengelLichtes (Contribs) 20:31, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I see. Well, since making an account on the EA forums and asking Diasflac is to much hard work, I'll take the easy option and attempt to destroy the Grox personally. I'll let you know if the 1000 Achievement exists if I manage to get it :)
 * According to his post where he says he defeated the Grox, there was no achievement. 01:57, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Luddite: Destroy 150 tools belonging to other tribes across multiple games???
 * Well, people have looked at the game files. Luddite is listed in there as an achievement, but so are three or for other things.  The main discovery was that Pathological Cheater has an acievement icon on the spore servers (see below) and Luddite does not.

Perhaps buying all the grox planets (or buying their homeworld)?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=926714&topic=45599811 The image seems genuine even if the description may not be. http://www.spore.com/static/war/images/achievements/0x60dd27f.png

Pathological Cheater (Hidden Achievement)
So I'm actually one of the people in the thread here that helped figure this stuff out. The achievement may or may not be real, but it is referenced in an internal game file, and the hex code associated to it is the same as the hex code on the image above, which is hosted on the spore.com servers. The description in the file was "Pathological Cheater" and "Use a cheat 50 times". Its pretty clear that this doesn't work though. So either the image linked above is just old trash, or the achievement is currently broken, and thats why nobody has gotten it. --Castlewise. (That picture is at, again. See the thread for more details.)
 * But in the internal gamefile, there are 102 achievements (don´t remember), and not only 100! So I thing... 1. Spore have more than 100 achievements, or 2. they are just forgotten achievements in the file, that was deleted from the game. like: "Pathological Cheater", "Pollinator" (One of your creations has appeared in 20 other players' universes) and "testAchievement" (A sample achievement accumulator definition). Well this last one, is a TEST one, obvious.. But.. what about Pollinator? And.. I already cheatted hundred times (just for "fun") and didn´t get this achievement... (maybe it's another one of those "rolling thunder" achievements, where they will have to make a patch to fix it!).
 * there is a problem... when you cheat, you DON´T GET achievements! (it´s like "turning off" the achievement in the game)
 * Oh there is definitely a problem. The reason that the missing achievement might be Pathological Cheater, as opposed to one of the other "extra" achievements in the file is that the hex code for Pathological Cheater has a corresponding image file on the spore servers and none of the others do.  This means that there is an image waiting to be included on your spore achievement pages for the Pathological Cheater achievement, but not for any of the other ones, like Pollinator or Body Builder.  It's clearly broken though.  The only other possibility is that the last achievement is something that is cheating related (the icon has a guy hiding a couple of aces up his sleeve) but isn't "cheat 50 times".
 * The description is "Use a cheat more than 50 times", .. maybe it´s to use THE SAME cheat 50 times...
 * Well i think you need to get the joker badge 50 times that could work.
 * Confirmation of this as the final secret achievement | http://www.spore.com/view/achievements/rupertlittlebear 66.27.229.75 18:12, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice. Does this mean get 50 Joker badges or just use a cheat?
 * But how he did that?
 * Get a save game in the space stage, use a cheat and get the joker badge, then exit to main menu without saving. Then do it 49 more times. Worked for me!

I tried to create 50 space age planets, cheat to get the badge and then quit to main menu saving. Didn't worked.

Look at my achievements. I have gotten that achievement. I got it, not through the Joker Badge, but by creating a creature for use in the later stages (I used adddna). My SPORE profile is Dullstar.71.120.42.89 01:22, 27 April 2009 (UTC)Dullstar

I forget who it was, but I saw that achivement in someone else's achivment page on the home site. (Fudgyboo7687)76.97.159.71 03:34, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Multiple Completion Achievements
A somewhat cheap, but effective way to do this is to save your game, advance to the next phase, exit to the main menu without saving, reload, advance again, rinse and repeat.

Effects
 * Cell Addict - Finish the Cell stage 25 times.
 * Bestial - Complete the Creature stage 10 times.
 * Tribal - Complete the Tribal stage 10 times.
 * Relentless - Complete the Civilization stage 10 times.


 * Might want to confirm this again, but I did not have these achievements post patch, and using the method described was unable to gain these achievements by doing as described. Most likely the method for recording "completion" was altered in the patch.66.27.229.75 18:23, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll remove the comments until it can be confirmed.


 * Well, I had accidentally gotten one or two of those achievements doing that while trying to make my green/blue/red result be what I wanted. Perhaps it was changed with the patch, someone else will have to check.  01:54, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * This 'trick' is what beta testers tend to do to get these sorts of achievements; they need to see if it works quickly, so cheap is good. However, I tried this out before the patch, both saving after getting all the DNA and leveling up 25 times, and also saving when I was 1 DNA away then getting the last DNA 25 times, leveling up to creature each time. However, I did not get the achievement. I haven't tried recently. —ErzengelLichtes (Contribs) 02:14, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I´ve tried this both WITH and WITHOUT the patch, and didn´t work in ANY case.

Why would anyone do that anyway? those arnt hard to get... 76.97.159.71 03:37, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Universe In A Box
The note on Universe In A Box says "this includes saving a national anthem and using vehicle editor in space age." I disagree. While I cannot prove it, I have never used the vehicle editor in the space age. However, I did make an anthem (I was going to try for Ghetto Blaster). What I know you need to do is use the cell creator, early creature creator, creature creator, tribal outfit creator, city outfit creator, space age outfit creator (this is the one I missed for a while), ground vehicle religious, water vehicle religious, air vehicle religious, ground vehicle economic, water vehicle economic, air vehicle economic, ground vehicle military, water vehicle military, air vehicle military, town hall, entertainment, factory, and finally space ship. Anyone else agree or disagree? —ErzengelLichtes (Contribs) 06:52, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah I think I may have it then. See,  I only made religious vehicles in the civilization phase and then I when I used the vehicle editor in the space phase I got the achievement.  I think its because the editor in the space phase allows you to put all the different types of weapons on your vehicle.  So either you try each of them out individually or you use the colony vehicle editor.


 * I had made each type of civ phase vehicle, air/land/sea for mil/relig/econ. The achievement only popped up for me when I went into the colony vehicle editor.
 * Maybe I did accidentally use it and don't remember. As far as I knew, I didn't use any of the space age designers besides UFO until I noticed there was one for clothing in the "Create" section. When I used it, I got Universe In A Box. But I guess I merely forgot that I used it.—ErzengelLichtes (Contribs) 02:16, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The same for me.— 12:16, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Not for Tips and Tricks for the Achievements
This page should just list all of the achievements, in their categories. It should not be used for tips and tricks. For example, the information listed next to Flight of the Bumblebee is 'very' useful info, but it should be its own article which should be linked from here. -- Dcemuser 18:55, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree. It would make the page much less cluttered, and we could include the achievements image files in a reasonable way. Someone is going to have some work cut out for them though.
 * The image files could be included in a table such as on http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Spice#Spice_Types, with the image on the left, achievement name in the middle, being a link to that achievement's page where tips are, and the description on the right. I would start working on this now, but I don't have the time.  If others think it's a good idea they could start, I'll get to it asap.  15:04, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Moved all the tips and tricks to individual achievement pages and made links. Please put new tips and tricks in the appropriate article.  For uniformity, please try and keep the format of the pages the same.  17:44, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Now have made a table for the Hidden achievements as mentioned earlier. Do you think this is an improvement, and worth doing for the entire page?  (For it will be a lot of work.)  18:48, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it looks much better! Obandsoller 21:56, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll get to work on the rest of the page, though the pictures will probably come after it's been put in a table. 23:36, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Everything's in a table, I'll work on getting the pictures there later. It would be nice if the individual achievement pages could have a template like the ship tools and the badges.  I would work on that, but I'm at a loss on how to do that.  03:11, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I could make an attempt at that tomorrow/over the weekend. But what exactly would you like in the template?  Do you want a link to each achievement and the achievement page, with the links arranged as they are in the Achievement page? Obandsoller 16:07, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was just thinking of something similar to the Badges template. Perhaps organized into the 7 categories like they are in the Ship Tools.  But something along those lines, yes.  And I should be able to get more of the achievement images up.  19:52, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Edit: Or the categories like they are in the Trait template. I think that one looks nicer.  (I seem to rant a lot on here)  02:21, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll make a stab at it now. Tell me if it's not quite what you wanted. Obandsoller 03:55, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice. The one thing I noticed, you made a mistake on Bad Baby, the page is called 'Bad Baby!.  Which made me realize we all messed up on Oh the Humanity, there's supposed to be an exclamation point at the end of that one too, but we're consistent, so no real need to change that one.  13:17, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm glad you made the changes, as I wouldn't be happy letting that slide.  Obandsoller 02:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

People who are making new pages for individual achievements, please follow the general layout of other individual achievement pages. It looks out of place otherwise. 02:29, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Achievement Placement
With the achievement images loaded, one can notice rather easily that all the general achievements have one color, the cell stage ones another, creature another, and so on. It seems to me that some achievements are placed in the wrong section when looking at this. I think the following changes need to be considered:
 * Creature Stage Unlocked moved to Creature Stage Achievements
 * Tribe Stage Unlocked moved to Tribal Stage Achievements
 * Civilization Stage Unlocked moved to Civilization Stage Achievements
 * Space Stage Unlocked moved to Space Stage Achievements
 * Aluminum Cell, Iron Creature, Steel Tribe, and Adamantium Civilization moved to General Spore Achievements

Do others agree? 02:57, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Firstly good stuff on uploading all the images!


 * Secondly either I misunderstand you, or you made a mistake on your list. I think for the first 4 suggestions you want to say the following:
 * Creature Stage Unlocked moved to Cell Stage Achievements
 * Tribe Stage Unlocked moved to Creature Stage Achievements
 * Civilization Stage Unlocked moved to Tribal Stage Achievements
 * Space Stage Unlocked moved to Civilization Stage Achievements


 * This way they will match up with the colours. If you want to do this, then I fully agree with those changes.
 * I think the reasoning behind the current arrangement is to list all achievements that can be done in each section in that section (except the hidden achievements, which we're keeping separate for the sake of avoiding spoilers). This is probably the easiest way for a reader to look at them.


 * So your suggestion of moving the unlocking stage achievements fits both with this idea, and so they fit the colour scheme.


 * But I'm not so sure about your last suggestion, since this breaks the idea of putting achievements where you unlock them, and that seems the most useful place to put them for a reader. But I don't actively oppose it.  Obandsoller 03:50, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


 * That's what I thought at first, too, but look closer at the colors. They are actually the colors of the sections I said, they're the ones that match up.  Your way makes more sense by just the achievement, but for some reason that's not how they did it.  However, even moving them to the end of the sections you mentioned would bring them closer to where the rest of their color are.  If any of that even makes sense.  13:11, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes you're right, I made a mistake cos it was late, and the colours for the first two stages are virtually the same. I'll move those achievements to the end of the stage they're completed in. Obandsoller 02:28, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

For galactic adventure achieviements someone should look at the prima game guide I think they are in that.

Achievements Box
Firstly, nice job on the page. Its really come a long way. I like the images and the table format. My only reccommendation is to remove the Achievements Box. Its too big. Basically you are creating a link for every line of the article, which is too many. I could be replaced by the contents box, which would just bring you to the group of achievements you are interested in. I would reccomend the same thing on the individual achievement pages. Its nice to be able to hop from one achievement to another, but 102 links is just too many.


 * I agree with removing the box from this article, but I think it should stay in the individual article, just for ease of navigation. Do you have a suggestion of making the navigation easy, without such a big box?  I don't think going via the Achievement page, or the category page is a solution I'm happy with. Obandsoller 02:26, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Can you put the links into a table of some kind? It would make things look a little more organized and easier on the eye.  Also, it might help keep the links separate from the rest of the article.  In the Oh the Humanity! page, for example, the navigation box is eating the picture.


 * We could try what was done for Ship Tools. For an example, look on Interstellar Drive 5.  I might be able to give that a try tomorrow.  13:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Or I could give it a try today since I forgot to bring my bag with my homework with me to school. Silly me.  How do you like it?  15:52, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * That looks good. Nice Job :D

going past the cheats- achievement bug
i found a way to get achievements after using cheats. all you need to do is to copy the game and paste a shortcut. the bug should be gone there, and all of your progress is saved. (but if you use cheats again you will have to create another shortcut).

Dragon Slayer
Just to confirm I added the part about the Dragon Slayer achievement after I saw a topic on the Spore forum where a member mentioned an achievement called 'Dragon Slayer' and to gain it requires you to kill 1000 epics over any number of adventures... This is the topic in question:

http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/32438.page

Bionicle2809 23:17, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

What is Going on Here!?
Guys, guys, guys! I am just fed up with how this page is managed! Do the Space Stage achievements really need to be split into three diffrent groups, with one group having only one member? And the Architect achievement! It did not change! In GA there is a new achievement called Architect which you get for putting 2000 buildings in adventures. Maxis just slipped up and replaced that image, if people payed any attention they would have heared that Maxis is trying to fix the problem! And then there is the new GA dilemma, no one seems to know what the new achievements are. To find them, just log into Spore and look at the achievements page in the Sporepedia. The only thing we should be having trouble with is finding the right images. I will try to fix the Architect Image but I know that I can't change, say, the way the Space Stage Achievements are arranged. Because I know that someone will just come by and change it back saying that this is "such an easier way". Yeah, but only if you are looking for 42! Otherwise it is a pain in the butt! Really! Is this that difficult? 01:05, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

MaxisCactus' guide
Can we copy (or summarize) the defintions on MaxisCactus' guide on the sporums for each of the GA acheivements' pages? The ones that have defintions aren't very clear or good (no offense to whoever wrote them) It would be a fast way to get all of those articles started, and it is offical information. Thanks, --T20a1 h5u23 04:43, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello? Anyone? I would be glad to put in the information, but I want to know if anyone agrees. --T20a1 h5u23 23:09, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Creature Achievements... In an Adventure?!
Ok, so I was just on GA making an adventure and I added three crew slots and shoved three different species of creature in all of them... As soon as I hit the test mode button I got the Village Folks achievement dispite the fact that I was in an adventures and it was test mode... Does this mean you can get other achievements in an adventure too?

Universal Ecologist's image
There's something wrong with the official site. I got Universal Ecologist, but there's no image on my list, only the description. OluapPlayer 00:46, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Achievements Icon
http://necrobones.com/cgi-local/achievement-checklist.cgi?

The link above goes to a Spore API called Achievement List. After you input a Spore username it shows a checklist of what achievement that user haves or not. The point is that all (but 3 at this time) have the achievements icon each with a link you can copy the URL of. -WolfMark6 01:25, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That tool uses wrong links for the My Precious and Captain Academy achievement. My Precious should be 0xaec66642!0x07f46070.png and Captain Academy should be 0xaec66642!0x07c8fcea.png. Universal Ecologist is indeed missing from the spore servers. 20:39, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey, thanks a lot! OluapPlayer 10:49, 11 July 2009 (UTC)