Board Thread:Wiki Discussion/@comment-1370845-20141107202502/@comment-6752454-20141107212441

I oppose this fully.

I think that quite frankly if people are upset over other people reading their comments they shouldn't be making them in a public channel. Not that I've even seen this argument causing that seems to be the basis for this anyway. (If it is so severe I would like examples.) If "gossip" is happening it is the result of someone "secretly" making comments publicly. IF this is an issue, it is one of the IRC users, not the logs.

I also vehemently oppose the removal of public logs, and in fact that will probably make the paranoia issue worse, replacing the supposed fear of people talking about you with the knowledge that the administration is recording everything that happens and refuses to share it with the rest of the wiki. And not everyone has the interest in setting up a system to log chat for them or wants to save long lists of IRC conversations. And even then if we have people logging chats we're right back at the starting issue of paranoia, and if they start sharing those we're right back at your initial issue.

The infobot functions are also not an issue, as previously stated they are rarely abused, and most of time they are used now it is minimal and limited to harmless fun or legitimate queries. When I use ~test (I probably being one of its most common users) it is fully legitimate and serves a dual purpose of both checking my connection if chat goes quiet (and being connected to other IRC channels concurrently it's only an issue if they all are quiet for a period at the same time), and as a non-awkward way of indicating I'm active in the channel, seeing if anyone else is as well.