Board Thread:Wiki Discussion/@comment-4242472-20140816221856/@comment-1370845-20140817002731

For a minute there, I actually thought you and all the others sharing this belief wanted me to take you seriously. It appears not.

What differs this site from say Halopedia, Wookieepedia or the FFwiki is that we handle a huge amount of user-created fiction on site.

The FFWiki probably has had more non-mainspacers in its equally long history than we do. Unlike us, the non-mainspacers do not outnumber the mainspacers, and about 75% of edits made on a daily basis are actual contributions. There was a single user promoted to an admin who was a 'non-mainspacer', and they were promoted for the same reason as me, though I do more. And so what? Once upon a time, 25% of those edits on that wiki were not contributory in the slightest. That 25% of edits on a single day of the FFWiki makes up about twice as much as a whole week on this wiki.

I strongly disagree that the criteria for adminship should be restricted to the mainspace. Because the vast majority of edits come from the fictional settings that have been created.

And? The vast majority of edits are unhelpful? What's your point? "Everyone else is unhelpful, so it's ok if we promote an unhelpful admin"? If you're not going to be promoted for anything other than a petty popularity contest or paranoia, then no, you do not deserve to be an admin on a wiki. This is genuinely insulting to every one of us. It really is. I'm again speaking on no one's behalf, but seriously, this is pathetic.

If so, then I see we have a conflict of ideas. It also makes me wonder what's the point of me staying if all the site is is a massive time sink for the more creative sorts like myself.

It's a massive time sink that exists because people have built and maintain the massive time sink for you. That you chose to sink time into it is none of our concern. We, unlike you, have sunk time into building in for you.

Sometimes one has to nip things in the bud before they get out of hand (if this had actually been done this whole mess could have been avoided, which proves the present adminship isn't a perfect team).

No. It proves nothing about the admins. If everyone feels so self-entitled that the wiki must bend to their will, and they need to whine about it like has been done over the past few months, and we've tried our best to a) avoid blocking, b) make a better system for you all, and c) not allow things to reach this point, then it says nothing about our inadequacy.

If you are going to continue to whine about us, continue to misinterpret what we have repeatedly said, then no, I'm not going to take you seriously. And don't think for one second you can dodge the fact that you're editing a wiki. The mainspace comes first. Why doesn't it? Because no one, myself included, cares to edit it. If you don't care to edit it, in the present or the past, then you do not deserve powers.

I don't care how condescending or elitist I sound. I have no way of expressing this without being so. The truth hurts, my friend. And I genuinely feel insulted with this.