User talk:MasterMachine

hey sivart er mastermachine um bookworm uuhhh....watever most call you.now that im unsuspended and i am working on the shellious like crazy i was wondering if i could join the war to protect the currently only non-dwarf galaxy in the second gigaquadrant.my first war and the alliance that will probebly happen after the war for wental.what could be better?i await your reply and you should probebly archive the ended talks now.later um ill just say mach for short. --Twinkyberries 14:15, April 13, 2011 (UTC)

War for Wental
When are we continuing this?

Irskaad - Talk to me - Respect the Kraw and their Galaxy! - Date and Time: 17:39, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

RE:"Explicit Content"
What? Al my fiction contains explicit content, but don't hold me responsible will ya?-- 14:55, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

My idea
Well, here's my idea:


 * Calonu meet Salchum
 * Some Wental allies join the Calonu
 * Salchum get overwhelmed and have to retreat
 * True Carnage is over.

Irskaad - Talk to me - Respect the Kraw and their Galaxy! - Date and Time: 20:14, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

meta shellious alliance and misc

 * first I was wondering if the shellious could ally the meta
 * second we should focus on getting out of true carnage in wental
 * third i read the nobi nations and iron giants' pages(coming along nice)
 * fourth !!!!!!!!!!!FTW!!!!!!!!!!
 * fifth happy spring break

--Twinkcome talk to me because we all have a minute to learn a lifetime of disaster. 20:18, April 15, 2011 (UTC)

sattilites
hey i think wental might have too much satellites.maybe we should fuse a few like zheno minor and akemi.They don't have much use and they will probebly be deleted if they don't get expanded.reply soon.

--Twinkcome talk to me because we all have a minute to learn a lifetime of disaster. 00:27, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

aquarius and earthborn
--Twink talk to me we all have a minute to learn a lifetime of disaster. 20:02, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Asgord genocide
Sure

MatthewMosley 13:24, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

teron
--Twink talk to me we all have a minute to learn a lifetime of disaster. 16:11, April 29, 2011 (UTC)

Fiction ratings
Oh yes, me and Technobliterator have begun to do fiction ratings for users, although we hope to encourage more users to join in, I suppose you could request someone to do a fiction rating on one of your blogs. Wormulon  Talk to me  16:13, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

RE:Story Infobox
Ummm... I'm not really sure that a story infobox is a good idea. infobox/legacy is a poor code, that's why it didn't work. Personally I'd just put that information in a prologue or something section and use bullet points; the only real story that actually justifies an infobox is the war one. So yeah I'd say use normal wikitext, or just use the war infobox without using certain parameters.-- 19:31, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Galaxies
Hello MasterMachine, I see you have been uploading many pictures of galaxies that already have wiki counterparts, for example, the first image in the gallery above is the Pinwheel Galaxy, which on the wiki is known as Fiction:Cyrannus Galaxy, and the second image is an artists impression of the Milky Way.

Are you planning on using these images for new galaxies? Because it could cause confusion and annoyance for some users.

-- Um2k9  - Fight the Future...  20:30, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Thats okay! =D

-- Um2k9  - Fight the Future...  20:37, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Re:First contact
We could both edit it, or if you don't feel like writing it you could just tell me what could happen and I could instead, I really don't mind either way. However, the theme is that either the SSA or a member of "The Civilization" go to have first contact with one of the Sporemaster races, or the other way around. The story written could go anywhere, but generally it must detail the characteristics of that particular species or civilization. I do recall the DCP allying with the Sporemaster Alliance, perhaps they go to investigate its existence after the civil war and then learn for about the races of the Forma group. Wormulon  Talk to me  16:35, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

I think the second option might be the easiest, and that is how First Contact has been working since I started it. So when the times comes for the DCP to explore the Sporemaster Alliance in more detail (soon, maybe not quite yet), we could discuss ideas what could happen when they interact, so even if I write it, your ideas could still be built into the fiction. Wormulon  Talk to me  16:57, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Object U
How long was it since I last wrote something there? :P

Anyways, I ask you, what sorts of obstacles could Kies cross inside Object U? And how are the controls described? I need this info to finnaly finish Object U.

Irskaad - Talk to me - Respect the Kraw and their Galaxy! - Date and Time: 12:16, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Pictures...
Hey Mastermachine, how are you doing?

I just type this to warn you that the images you are uploading are... as you have already realized not from Spore, not even based on Spore. Please, this is a wiki-based FROM SPORE, not a random fiction website, if you are interested in writing and all adding pictures you want, go to THIS wiki please. I know you've been told before, please find a way to add pictures from Spore, we have talented users here. Val  (Mind Heist)  21:20, May 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Val has a point actually, but I do stress another, that is possible copyright infringement. If your images aren't free-use it can infringe on it, and most wiki's don't take this lightly, at least you should give credit on your images where they come from.  Occasionally I use an image from google to enhance an image, but I only use free images.  I see that you do not have Galactic Adventures, but I'm sure you can request users to make them for you.  Wormul.png Wormulon   Talk to me  21:29, May 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Any wiki that I went to and this'd be a 3-day ban and the images would be deleted. Why? It not only breaks Wikia's rules (Wikia's, not just SporeWiki) but the law. If it continued after the 3-day ban there'd be longer blocks. So really, asking someone else to make them for you would be better, would it not?-- 21:32, May 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Tell you what, I have had enough of this. I don't care whether you based a whole species off a pic, or whether or not you'd like to keep certain images, or you are too goddamn lazy to remove them. It breaks Wikia's rules and the law, and you give no credit whatsoever to where you got them. Your excuses are pathetic. You deserve more than a three-day ban. Now, you have been warned time and time again, but you still do it. We'd like it if you remove all the images you stole off the internet, deviantArt, etc, and keep them imageless until you get Spore or if you get somebody else to make your creations. Because this is getting stupid, and if you do not stop with it, you will get banned. Lucario of the Gods (talk 12:13, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Planets
Nah, I found 'em. I wish I had more like them. Their pretty awesome and I'm going to use them for some fiction later on.

SausageCat - Talkbox meh! 22:20, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

Finished! :D
It's done. If there are any errors in this story, tell me or fix them. Also, if you want SPORE images of your critters like the Civ Cylone pic feel free to ask! I have time now that I've finished my school work for now.

Irskaad - Talk to me - Respect the Kraw and their Galaxy! - Date and Time: 12:25, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Emperor Dylan
Alright, I know we've never met before, but I guess all things must come to an end, and so shall the silence between us. Allow me to introduce myself: I'm Jovar1, one of the "veteran" users at this wiki. Nice to meet you, MasterMachine.

Now look, what you're doing, making all of these accounts, adding licensed pictures, etc, is completely unacceptable. Not to mention lying to an administrator. Now I'm not going to be as harsh to you as other will (your punishment is inevitable at this point), but I will still point out that what you are doing is against the rules. Again: AGAINST THE RULES. At least you're willing to accept punishment. But nonetheless, blaming medicine on this behavior seems a bit strange. A lot of people on this wiki have disorders, and yet they never do anything like this.

Now I'm not trying to be mean (by any means, quite the contrary). But I am stating the facts. You will be punished now. I'm not an administrator though, so we'll have to wait until one arrives before you are banned. And I'm not so sure that your punishment will be as short as 3 days.... again, sorry for the horrible introduction. The  Jovar  22:41, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

Blocked
You are blocked for the period of 1 month for going against Wikia's image guidelines and the use of multiple accounts. You are, however, still able of editing your own talk page. Please understand that creating new accounts won't solve your problems. OluapPlayer -  Fear me, cowards!  16:48, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

That's fine. I deserve that completely. When I'm back I'll take out the rest of the pics that I eithetr missed or didn't get to. I need the break anyway, I was getting a little overboard... anyway, thanks for the notifaction. Mastermachine Be a friend, save a life. Once a moron, Always a moron. -Only through peace will peace be achieved- 20:45, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I will delete them for you if you want. Well sorry to find out that your blocked. Be lucky that you can still edit your talk page. When i was banned for spamming & sockpuppets I could not even edit a single letter of any page. Note that though you did things you feel ashamed of,you can always get back on track no matter how much you did. Well unless a asteroid falls from space and crushes you. Luckily you will have a small chance of surviving and ganing super powers. Also if you have trouble with grades you can turn a D into B by adding another D ontop,If its a - you can add a | over it to make it look like a +. Though you anoyed people you have alot in common with people here. I would be one of the people to say that I never douted you when you said you wantd to be freinds with everyone on the wiki. You also did many things here like making the many empires that play many roles in many places of many fictions. And was it not you who started the sporewiki universe history. Without you i would not be entertained by the lost ones,the omega, and many other outstanding fictions that amde you special when you were sporemaster. You are still that person and I believe that you should not be down. Is it just me or was that the nicest thing i have ever said in my entire life.

Twink talk to me we all have a minute to learn a lifetime of disaster. 23:16, May 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * P.S. The cake is a lie.
 * P.S.S. I have lost the game
 * P.S.S.S. Agree with me when i say that it sounds funny when someone says they are going to an eye-flush station.I mean it sounds like they are saying that they ae going to the restroom.

Well thank you! And I never really lied about anything I said in relation to others, just to myself If you can find any of my various screenshots/pics that aren't from spore, feel free to delete them. Still, I broke the rules, made too many accounts (because I'm just that dumb), and am now being punished. Since I broke the rules, I'm actually glade to be blocked, it's only what I deserve. And it is cool that I can still edit my talk-page, that was very nice of them to let me keep. And since I responding to this, yes, I agree that an eye-flush station is a very funny way to put it.

BTW, "annoyed people" is probably an understatement... if I didn't at least make it to some people's "enemy" list, then I'll be surprised. Especially Xho, I pretty much lied to his face, I wouldn't be surprised if I came back to find that all my fiction had been wiped out the Xhodocto... great, now I'm giving him ideas, lol. Anyway, thanks for offering to delete any leftover pics, and thanks for everything you said. I needed that. Mastermachine -Only through peace will peace be achieved- Be a friend, save a life. Once a moron, Always a moron. 00:06, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Just now i managed to delete most of them. I looked in your contributions page to find all pictures you ever uploaded. Surprisingly,most were spore ships and galaxies. I found the ship thing long. I may be good at creatures but you are good at ships. If you share them on spore and give me your E-mail on spore i can create a space battle for wars with galactic adventures. I even have all patches and creepy and cute for spicing it up on the ground. Also now would be a good time to think about what empires that need fuson,deletion,or importion to your personal universe. Summer is almost here with the midsummer festival. You would not have it considering i live on the worlds smallest area that has it's own legal border. Also when you you are on the talk page you can give ideas for what should happen in the war. I need to tell you that i wil be somewhat busy with things so i might not have much social activity on the wiki for a small duration of time.--Twink talk to me we all have a minute to learn a lifetime of disaster. 12:53, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

War for Wental
I feel so sorry for your ban, especially because I now have a war on hold that's not going anywhere, what shall we do?

Irskaad - Talk to me - Respect the Kraw and their Galaxy! - Date and Time: 17:17, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Well, since I cannot tell you on your talk page, I'll just tell you here. With the war, you can wipe out Teron in any way you wish. The Metamind will die with Teron, but he's the only important person on my side i want dead. With Teron gone, along with the Wental Alliance capitol, they will take time to reorganize, which can be that month I'm blocked for. You can have some bits and pieces where the Iteok continue to attack, same for the TIAF, but just don't go overboard and wipe out my fictions yet... Mastermachine Be a friend, save a life. Once a moron, Always a moron. -Only through peace will peace be achieved- 20:48, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Very well, I'll stop with the Metamind's destruction, and wait.

Irskaad - Talk to me - Respect the Kraw and their Galaxy! - Date and Time: 20:53, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm sorry I got myself banned (not that I got banned, just that I needed to be banned at all) in the middle of that war. Seriously, I am. Mastermachine Be a friend, save a life. Once a moron, Always a moron. -Only through peace will peace be achieved- 21:02, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

I suppose the same could be said for First Contact, I can still discuss plans with that before you return. Wormulon  Talk to me  20:58, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Again, I'm sorry... if you want to go ahead with that one, just read the articles and base the story off of what's said in them. I'm pretty sure they ahve some personality details in them.

Anyway, I shouldn't abuse my talk=page editing rights, so until the ban is lifted...Mastermachine Be a friend, save a life. Once a moron, Always a moron. -Only through peace will peace be achieved- 21:03, May 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * OlaupPlayer left your talk page editing rights switched on so we could all discuss fiction and the like with you. Okay, I'll do as you suggested.  Wormul.png Wormulon   Talk to me  21:33, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, well, I guess that's cool... still, don't want to abuse the ability. Mastermachine Be a friend, save a life. Once a moron, Always a moron. -Only through peace will peace be achieved- 22:25, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Terminei
I'm done with the end of Teron. If there's anything wrong, you can tell me or you can fix it. Oh wait, you can't. :(

Irskaad - Talk to me - Respect the Kraw and their Galaxy! - Date and Time: 09:25, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice ending. I sort of expected the battle to last longer, but it's my fault that I got blocked. Do you think you could make Teron uninhabitable, not colonized? I hadn't expected it to become a colony... anyway, it's fine besides that. Thanks for bearing with me and this block, it's already annoying me... Mastermachine -Only through peace will peace be achieved- Be a friend, save a life. 12:26, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Done fixing that part. It's very sad you got blocked. :(

Irskaad - Talk to me - Respect the Kraw and their Galaxy! - Date and Time: 12:33, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, Irskaad. It's not so much sad i got blocked as it is sad I even needed to be blocked. My self-control isn't the best (ha, far from it) but still, creating a puppet account, that was just plain pathetic, even for me. Anyway, thanks for altering the page, when I get back we can continue the war again. Mastermachine -Only through peace will peace be achieved- Be a friend, save a life. 12:45, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Speaking of that can i build a aftermath were the shellious help to salvage some stuff from the ruins. The shellious could manage finding some peices of meta heritage but before they could return there small surviving artafacts the meta were not findable. In another point of the galaxy the meta are slowly losing planets before the might of their enemies. The meta seeked refuge in the remaining colonies to plan their regainig of planet for their survivors. The mata can plan going to drenol were they come in contact with the nobi nation. In the zheno minor galaxy things are not going well. The shellious empire was having troubles of its own when a mysterious unidentified object was slowly going around the galaxy causing gravity rifts.You think of some more to add to the story. So far the wental side is having a lousy day.--Twink talk to me we all have a minute to learn a lifetime of disaster. 13:08, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Well, actually, I was going to have the Meta and Iron Giants join the Wental Alliance as new members because of how badly they are losing. The Yama Empire loses it's Empress and Masuri takes control. He, by necessity, remains a part of the Wental Alliance.

The Future
When I come back, I have some major plans already placed and written in stone. The various 2nd gig galaxies will be merged into Wental (I may rename it if I feel it necessary, but that is unlikely). In much the same fashion as I did with the Sporemaster Alliance, I am going to turn the Wental Alliance into a larger organization with the Verinobi, Meta, Iron Giants, Calonu, and original Wental Alliance joining it to create the "Greater Wental Alliance", with the EEP (created as Emp Dylan) joining after being driven out of the milky way by an AI. The Salchum, Reformed Zardalu Empire, Nikkin Confederacy, Nobi Nations, Nova Empire, Dalanit Nomad Alliance, and Mumble Arigra Empire will form the "Lesser Wental Alliance". At least, those are my plans. I also intend to revamp all of my articles, including the Sporemaster articles. So that's what I plan to do, and I'm going to section up Wental just like I did with Forma/Sana. Just a heads up, I guess. It's like being in jail, you realize how dumb you've been and decide to change it all... the LWA and GWA will be on odds at all times, so there will still be a continuation of the War for Wental, but with only the LWA and GWA sides. And the Iteok/TIAF side if they wish to remain their own side. See, all this thinking, in less then 24 hours of my block... I even re-wrote my entire MasterMachine userpage, listed my fictional factions, and created a "History of MasterMachine", all in a sticky-note on my Mac. I really need to get a better hobby...

Anyway, back to what actually matters. Teron is unrecoverable. There will be nothing left for the Meta to find, and with the loss of the Wental Alliance capitol both factions will turn to the Iron Giants to help lead them. The few Meta ships sent to find the Calonu do so, and that's how the Calonu join. The EEP find the GWA when they arrive at revamped Wental. That's what I've got so far.

Sorry it's so sudden, but when my brain stars working... well, it just keeps working and doesn't stop. Anyway, what do you guys think of the above plan? Mastermachine -Only through peace will peace be achieved- Be a friend, save a life. 13:21, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

It's a nice idea, though what will the Greater Wental Alliance do about the Iteok and the TIAF?

Irskaad - Talk to me - Respect the Kraw and their Galaxy! - Date and Time: 13:39, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Surrender to TIAF, then drive the Iteok from Wental. They will have more tech-based-power (Iron Giants, Calonu, Verinobi) and since the Iteok attacked all of Wental the LWA will also be their enemies. I'm still working on the details. Mastermachine -Only through peace will peace be achieved- Be a friend, save a life. 13:57, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

The alliance could have some branches to it like military,science,and trade. The smarter races like the shellious could help with supplying technology while warmonger like races defend the galaxy and thr rich empires that so choose to support the trade around the galaxy. WOW this is booming. Once your unbanned we will be editing like crazy. Anyway do you think you need more added to object U? Also note that when my computer get up and running properly i will revamp the shellious apearence to look a little more interesting.Im thinking that some of the empires you have could use some ideas. The sapo are an interesting race and a good example of cool fiction. wait i have go.sorry now--Twink talk to me we all have a minute to learn a lifetime of disaster. 14:32, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking I would make an entire empire page for the GWA and LWA, and I would make update the Sporemaster and Darkstar Alliance pages. Along with everything else. The main reason for the merger is so that all future empire's I create can just be added to them, mostly because I like creating empires, but not having to lead them in different directions. Yay for merger!

Object U could always use more additions, it's a never ending fiction, IMO. That's what I wanted it to be, anyway. When you get your comp running you can also finish the Nikkin creatures, you did a very nice job with the Earthborn and Aquarius. And if you want a challenge you can try to create stuff for my other fictions. I would do it myself, but A)My creature creating skills are... uh, pathetic. B)My Spore game hates my guts. and C)I'm going to be very busy revamping the various less-then-my-standard empires.

Anyway, tha Shellious giving the Wental Alliance tech would definitely help them fight off the Iteok. Of course, we could have the war end with an "uneasy peace" with Iteok still making raids on Wental territories, but full blown war not occurring... it's really up to Irskaad as to how he wants the war to end. Mastermachine -Only through peace will peace be achieved- Be a friend, save a life. 15:13, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

I want the war to end like this:


 * The Iteok's wental Colonies are destroyed
 * The Wentals start going for Ikrhas
 * The Wentals capture Toragh 9 and threaten his life
 * Rhes 23 will beg for a truce between both Empires.

Iteok DO NOT want to lose Toragh 9, because if they do, Rhes 23 will rule the Khereg and he will be a bit more peaceful and less arrogant, much to the annoyment of the Iteok about it. Everyone wants Toragh 9 to stay alive until Harkrhos 7 is 19.

Irskaad - Talk to me - Respect the Kraw and their Galaxy! - Date and Time: 15:18, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

There is one key issue I see here: unless Tybunsen is okay with TIAF withdrawing from the war after accepting the Wental offer of peace, there will be no way that the Wental Alliance will be able to survive to ever go on the offensive, let alone take the Iteok leader. So, if Tybunsen chooses to stay in the war, you will need to bring Toragh 9 to Wental, where they can capture him. How likely is it that he would come in person to oversee his war? Because of he does we can have the Wental Alliance make a daring attack on his fleet, which distracts them as the Calonu ships, cloaked, sneak in and manage to capture Toragh's flagship. It's an idea, if Tybunsen doesn't want to leave the War for Wental as early as would be needed. Of course, with the Calonu, Iron Giants, and Wental ships all working together, they could (with a great deal of luck) take on the TIAF and maybe win, plus the 2nd Bunsen War will help distract TIAF from Wental, so TIAF could very well exit the war without looking bad, if the Wental Alliance offers a peace agreement. It would be a way to allow the WA to go on the offensive at last. What does Tybunsen think of this? (I can't ask him, so someone else will have to in my place) Mastermachine -Only through peace will peace be achieved- Be a friend, save a life. 15:54, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

My presence was requested. I am here :P

The TIAF will accept peace, they're only fighting "in the name of universal tranquility". Would've liked the war to be longer, but, well, you gotta be flexible. Though if the Wental races want to get involved in the 2nd Bunsen War (much later, of course), there will still have to be some tension. I can take care of that with Routhis (he never accepts peace without total devastation), he'll probably rampage across the Wental Galaxy. And, no offense, I don't believe the Wentals can remove the TIAF by force. The 2nd Bunsen War should be an adequate distraction, but it's normal for the TIAF to remain on high alert shortly after a war.

You're sure you want to totally destroy Teron? Cause the TIAF is willing to help anyone it is at peace with. And terraforming will do Teron good. Besides, the TIAF never wanted to almost-extinct the Meta (I assume the loss of the Metamind will sharply weaken all of the Meta). That's just my ideas, though.

I would like to see Toragh come to Wental, though. Comes with a feeling of "nothing can touch me" and gets captured by the Wentals.

The War in Wental isn't over, it's just taking a break while the Wental Alliance reforms into the Greater Wental Alliance. When I get back I will add the parts of the story that will be missing, including how the EEP, Verinobi, Iron Giants, Meta, Calonu, and Yama found the GWA.

Teron will be rendered unihabitable, but not destroyed. I'm thinking, lifeless wasteland, but with the planet itself intact. Oceans boiled away, but land still there. That way, in the future, the Meta can return to claim their lost world. I've even got the way they will do this done. After being devastated by the loss of Teron, the Meta will never again be at more then half their before loss power. Which is why they will become simply members of the GWA instead of powerful allies.

I doubt that the Wental Alliance could push the TIAF out of Wental by force either, but they could if they managed to think it devastating enough to use the transgate system as a weapons (drop fleets off anywhere in Wental without warning). I created the Transgate system long before the Wental War started, so it wouldn't be adding something new. With that kind of power they would need only the locations of TIAF planets to attack abnd capture them, long before a TIAF fleet could respond, or before they would even know they are being attacked. A powerful weapon ideed, don't you think? lol

The Toragh 9 captured by "primitive" Wental aliens will be the scandal of the universe, and a very embarrising bit for the Iteok to suffer through XD Now, i don't really think the war will end as soon as i get back, I wanted the Teron destruction to be about halfway through the war, so the Iron Giants and Calonu would have some time in the war before it ended, so that much is still alterable. Mastermachine -Only through peace will peace be achieved- Be a friend, save a life. 18:05, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Hi mastermachine. Its been along time since I talked to you.

Anyway I feel we need more to the shellious and calonu. They really need a little more content in the war. The colonu need more on the frontlines and the shellious need a little more spice to their story. Any ideas?

Also Im thinking of stuff for future wars that is just filling my head trying to get out. Like a revolt from the Shellious Imperium's followers,The meta's take back of drenol,and a possible need to make a seperate collab fiction universe to give others a chance to shine bright and start fresh with the 2nd generation.My mind is just booming with stuff from spore and even other stuff like seperate online games.

Finally I might have some redused activity and I am planning on joining the fantasy universe.--Twink talk to me we all have a minute to learn a lifetime of disaster. 16:58, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

•sighs• I had just managed to forget about this site... gee, thanks...

So, here's the first set of things: The Calonu won't be around much longer, insofar as an empire goes. They will be merging with the other members of the GWA when it's formed. Then they will become involved in the War For Wental. The Shellious being involved in the war will have to wait until after my block ends (about 3 weeks) so nothing to be done about that there. Drenol will be merged with Wental, along with the rest of the 2nd gig galaxies I created, so there will be no 'taking back' of Drenol, just war between the GWA and LWA.

Anyhow, I don't really want to be tormented by this site, so try not to talk to me. I have no need to come here except when people leave messages. I may still be here when the block lifts, it's not too long. MasterMachine -Only through peace will peace be achieved- Be a friend, save a life. 18:23, May 14, 2011 (UTC)

Notes on your fiction
Okay, its now time in Voyages of the Avenger and First Contact for me to write stories about the Sporemaster Alliance abd maybe some of your other fiction (its about time they goyt a bit more fictions for them). The races that interested me were some of your more unusual fiction. The bits that stuck out for me was the ship Ragnos and the First Born, which remind me of SAtephen Baxter's First Born, a race of beings who are on a quest to eradicate all life to increase the age of universe. I'm not sure what it could have to do with the DCP though. Then, there is the Astrolights they encountered in Universe 5. I take it that the Astrolights are highly dangerous to the Lost Ones, being electromagnetic and then being mechanical.
 * Lost Ones and the Astrolights

So there is only one Astrolight left. However, they can replicate themselves inside stars, and the Lost Ones have it in captivity. But what if somehow escaped during the civil war? And had nested themselves inside one of the DCP's stars in the galaxy? The DCP may want the Lost Ones to help them out of recapturing them.

As for how they could communicate, I imagine the Lost Ones speak in story and metaphor. Now, the Guardians of Times Gate are probably my favourite of your creations. I was thinking about the Times Gate itself. In quantum mechanics, the universe is non-local, because everything was entangled in the Big Bang. To understand this, scientists have seperated two particles, both with the same spin value. When they altered one particle, the other changed instantly. Either information was travelling at infinite speed, or they were still touching. The entire universe could really be non-local.
 * The Gaurdians of Times Gate

Perhaps Times Gate is a singularity, like one in a black hole. At the singularity, everything about the universe is non-local, and the Guardians have access dsatum of information. I have recently built a creation for Technobliterator. Its called the Taldar Pentachronon, where I tried to buila 4D tetrahedron. It is one of their equivilients to a ship capable of transversing the 5th dimension where they live. Perhaps, Times Gate is a Taldar artifact. It would make sense, they wuld fill the perfect role.

Techno's character, the rougue Taldar Mac, is now affilurated with the DCP. Perhaps he directs them there. Of course the Guardians might try and defend it fiercly despite the DCP being allies with the Sporemaster Alliance (which I think is loose alliance anyway). But with a Taldar there, they might let the DCP through. But then what? One of their weaknesses are riddles, perhaps one of them is stuck in one and needs help. The Technoosphere might be just the thing. In fact, what if the Great Library joined the Technoosphere for that matter? I might have minor references to other races the DCP might encounter. And of course, there is the Murbelt. Since they are so mind influential what if they started this whole mission to the Sporemaster galaxy in the first place? Point to a thicker plot? I imagine a Murbelt being encountered on an Alumi world, posing as a fortune teller and maybe even on of Time Guradians...
 * Omega
 * Others
 * 1) Cecrop-nopt
 * 2) Descolda Esparioa - Might be quite a bit of humour.
 * 3) The Alumini - Remind of the Technomages from Babylon 5. Might give insights.
 * 4) Nanite Swarm - DCP crew could probably run into those.

As I write these I may do a bit of cleanup and maybe even upload to few shots. Wormulon  Talk to me  15:14, May 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Also, have you read any stuff by Stephen Baxter like the Xeelee Sequence? There is some similarities.  And about the plant sentience you have written about, you might like plant intelligence.  I think perhaps nearly all life forms are self aware.  Maybe plants are simply "slow gods", they are vastly intelligent but are vastly slow thinkers.  Wormul.png Wormulon   Talk to me  15:19, May 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Lost Ones and Astrolights - That last Astrolight DID escape during the civil war, it was one of the key parts of how the Darkstar Alliance planned to shatter the Sporemaster Alliance. Without the Lost Ones to hold them together, they figured the Sporemaster Alliance would collapse. The Astrolight, however, had chosen not to destroy the Lost Ones (yet) because it wasn't powerful enough. It has also not yet chosen a star to host in, as it needs one that will not be noticed when it's energies are depleted (AKA, star goes nova). So you could have the Astrolight move into a DCP colony system. Of course, I think it more likely that a DCP ship will run into it and end up taking severe damage to it's electronics and software. The Astrolights are not very conductive of machines, not just the Lost, but all machines.


 * The Guardians of Times Gate - While I did base Times Gate off of the Taldar's power, I had never really thought they would be related. I sort of thought of Times Gate as a separate entity from the Guardians. It would have been something along the lines of a Tier 0 God-Being. Maybe from, IDK, some sort of "Absolution Gap" (made that up in a daydream, it's a nearly invisible barrier between reality and unreality that keeps the two from mixing openly). It would exist outside of time, which is why it can control time. Very hard to explain, actually, but the Guardians would be it's "Collection" of life forms, there to protect it and because it considers normal life forms (anything that isn't from the Absolution Gap) to be nothing but toys or collectables. So it could try to add the DCP ship to it's collection. Oh, I got it! Maybe Times Gate would allow the Taldar (and therefor DCP) to come closer, hoping to add to it's colelction, and the Taldar could think it's a forgotten relic of their species, and therefor think they are safe from it's power. When they arrive, the would find out how wrong they are and need to fight their way out. Because Times Gate can control time, the Taldar that came with them would only be able to cancel out it's power, which would save the DCP ship but be unable to destroy Times Gate (as it exists outside of time). And the battle would commence! Considering that the Sporemaster Alliance and DCP are allies, that could cause political issues, but those can be dealt with at a later date :)


 * Omega - That would actually make for a very good idea... and maybe as a reward for saving it from the riddle, it could take them to the Great Library and that's how the Technoosphere and Great Library are connected? Would make for a good story, think about it. A mighty, gravity defying structure the size of a star system. lol, that would humble even the DCP, I think.


 * Others:
 * Cecrop-nopt - I need to work on that page (one more thing on my already way to long list... urg, I'm going to have a nervous breakdown soon) so just leave them out. Maybe have one of their ships just say hi or something. In fact, that's what you can do for all the unimportant Sporemaster Alliance empires.
 * Descolda Esparioa - lol, they wouldn't be able to keep a strait face for more then a few moments of time XD. Would definitely be a humorous encounter. And they would likely send your ship in the wrong direction too, or play a dangerous prank on you (like opening the airlocks or something) they are just like that. Little kids, with no understanding of the full affects of their actions.
 * The Alumini - Hm... I didn't really put a ton of effort into that fiction did I? I'm not entirely sure I even remember them... Also, someone decided to vandalize the page (ass hole) so if someone would kindly undo that... I can't, I'm blocked. Anyway, just leave them out of the story except maybe as a tiny side note, like how they may have seen one of their ships at the Great Library or traveling near them.
 * Nanite Swarm - The Lost Ones managed to start diplomacy with the Nanite Swarm, and as such they have been made to understand that invasive life isn't all bad. They would still be a danger to unknown ships entering their space (as they are always on the lookout for dangerous invasive creatures) but it would be possible for the DCP to work with them in their dream of becoming a biomechanical life form. But beware, the Nanite Swarm would love to add a Taldar to their numbers and unlock the secrets of the Gyronic... would make for a good story.


 * The Murbelt - They could be responsible for it... the DCP could also encounter some of the Murbies (the Murbelt's slave species) and communicate with them that way.


 * Anyone we've forgotten -
 * Sandgorgon - It would be interesting to have a group of Sandgorgon be found demolishing a Sporemaster Alliance vessel or a Darkstar Alliance vessel. Just as a side note during travels or something.
 * Darkstar Alliance species - Would probably be very defensive, because they don't trust allies of the Sporemaster Alliance.
 * Anyone who isn't important enough to be noted above - would be encountered at various points in ships traveling through the Sana/Forma galaxy.


 * The Sapo Hive Mind - You forget them entirely lol. They would either ignore you utterly or ask you to leave their territories, maybe even enforce it with a small militarian fleet. You could have some bits about how their ships are perfectly in tune and how a hive mind is epic for efficiency and effectiveness.

MasterMachine -Only through peace will peace be achieved- Be a friend, save a life. 16:35, May 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks! All looking good.  Also I reverted the vandalism.  Wormul.png Wormulon   Talk to me  18:38, May 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for reverting the vandalism. Bookworm2.gifrMachine -Only through peace will peace be achieved- Be a friend, save a life. 19:38, May 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't work. The taldar will know if they're gonna make mistakes; they can see every single possible future. They'd know if it were safe or not. Only by putting Dark Gyronic on something would its future be invisible to them> I suppose they could use Dark Gyronic in the gate... but oh well.-- 16:39, May 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually it still could work. Master said Times Gate is outside time, it is time immune, and thus, beyond the 5th dimension and so the Taldar might be none the wiser.  Wormul.png Wormulon   Talk to me  17:20, May 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * •gets a headache trying to understand that...• if it exists outside time, and the gyronic is limited to time, then how would the Taldar know what it's gonna do? It would be like having 2 Taldar fight, they would just equal each other out, right? Bookworm2.gifrMachine -Only through peace will peace be achieved- Be a friend, save a life. 17:46, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Bad News
Well, I get my editing rights back on June 5th. Naturally, the very next day is when I have to hand in my Mac. I won't be able to do much (if any) editing for the entire summer period (not unless I happen to find a thousand bucks or so) because my dads computer can't edit Sporewiki properly (it's weird, the comp is only a year old too) and my moms computer just plain sucks for anything related to wikia... so, I will have 1 day to do all my editing, then I'm pretty much screwed all summer long, editing wise. Damn You, Gods of Computers and Wikia! Anyway, that's the bad news. The good news is that I'll have plenty of experience in the patience department when I get back... no more creating 30+ empires in a week of time! MasterMachine -Only through peace will peace be achieved- Be a friend, save a life. 15:39, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Well, that sucks, doesn't it? :P

But first of all, what are we going to do with the collabs you're involved in, the War for Wental and the Second Bunsen War? Without you around, no one will be able to advance their stories, especially since your fiction plays such a central role in the War for Wental.

So, what do we plan on doing with that dilemna?

Well, I wasn't sure. We have several options: I can pray for a new mac to fall into my hands (ha, as if, I'm not that lucky) we can see how crappy my moms computer really is with this site (I haven't used it for Sporewiki in a long time) or we can just shut down my fiction until school starts up again next september. 3 guesses on which one I'm planning to try... lol. I really am hopeful that I can at least bring the War for Wental to a sound break in the war, but thats almost definitely not going to happen. Course, now I'm blocked/banned on my two favorite sites (I've been having a bad month... family issues, school issues, cussing issues, you name it issues...) so I have nothing better to do except think up ways to end all my activity on this wiki is a safe, sound manner. So much for introducing the 7 or so new emps I created to spice up the War For Wental (A new Grox Faction, several new factions out of the Wental Alliance, and 2 new neutral factions just because I was bored). I could have a "For Free" blog and give away most/all of my empires so that my fictions can continue without me. •sigh• I honestly don't know how I'm going to survive the summer without my favorite wiki and site (Sporewiki) and by the time I get back I'll have forgotten everything about the site. Well, I have a week or so to think about it, and to see if I can't get my moms comp working with Sporewiki. At the end of the block I'll be able to definitively say that I will or won't be here for the summer. Until then, it's all in the air. MasterMachine -Only through peace will peace be achieved- Be a friend, save a life. 15:24, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

I also have one last, super extreme option that would nonetheless solve all of my problems in one go. I can completely wipe all my empires, and start from scratch. Honestly, that idea is looking better and better. The only issues I can see with it is that I will end up creating more empires anyway, and it's not fair to everyone who's got business with my current assortment of empires... so I'm pretty much in a bind of my own making, and can't get out. MasterMachine -Peace is unattainable except through death. 15:37, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

well sorry your leaving for the summer so is damousies. if you wipe some empires then i can cleanup some stuff to make it look like another empire did that stuff and if you give away stuff can i have a few stuff you could also split some with irskadd,captaintybunsen,and anyone else you can think of. well it was nice seeing you and hopefully you will stay in touch. later oh sivart who needs a mac.

P.S.i am good at making things that people delete look like they never existed ...so yeah and again see you in fall.

--Twink talk to me we all have a minute to learn a lifetime of disaster. 17:41, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Poor you, hope you do well in the summer, we are all going to miss you. And what about the war for wental, it's basically unfinished.

Irskaad - Talk to me - Respect the Kraw and their Galaxy! - Date and Time: 18:08, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I wasn't able to test my moms comp today, and I'm grounded from it for the rest of the week, so I won't be able to test it. If I pop back on in the middle of june, you know it's working :) Anyway, about the War for Wental. I had really wanted it to continue, but I'm thinking that I'll have to use my 1 day of not being blocked and being able to use my mac to wrap it up until september. Then we can have hostilities re-surface or something. Would the Iteok stop attacking all of Wental if the Wentalians gave them some territories in Wental to harass? And with TIAF I was always planning to have the Wental Alliance surrender (possibly without conditions), this will just be a sooner end then we had thought it would be...

@Twinky: I'm still thinking about it, and more likely then not I'll just end up keeping my emps, but if I do wipe/give away any I'll alert you to immediately.MasterMachine -Peace is unattainable except through death. 23:36, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

The TIAF would accept surrender, and would be willing to negotiate the conditions of the peace treaty with the WA (especially considering the fact that the TIAF's Grand Assembly never reached an agreement on declaring war on the entire WA). To restart hostilities in September, I know that Admiral Routhis will be disappointed that he didn't get to annihilate the WA, so he'll try to reinstate hostilities in any way he can.

And if it happens that your mom's computer works, I can change the storyline so that Routhis decides to keep fighting or just happens to get the message late (he'd likely use that as an excuse, however). Oh, and let's not forget about the Wental Front in the Second Bunsen War, which will draw the VFP and Levisala to Wental.

Hope your mom's computer works!

If Wental gave the Iteok 1/3rd of the Wental Galaxy to harass and conquer, they could form a truce. >:D

Irskaad - Talk to me - Respect the Kraw and their Galaxy! - Date and Time: 08:14, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

@CaptainTybunsen: Hey, I'm sure there are 101 ways to get the TIAF and Greater Wental Alliance (GWA, officially named! Well, not on Sporewiki, but in my head :p) to start a new war or restart this one. And here's to hoping my moms comp works (damn, not allowed to upload pics... I had a great lolpic for this)

@Irskaad: The GWA would, sadly, be open to that... course, the Lesser Wental Alliance would be pissed, it's their territory that's being given away >:D Personally, I think that the "Kidnapped Toragh 9 (spelled right?) is a much nicer ending (for me XD) but if 1/3 of Wental is what has to be given away then I can see how hostilities would re-spark. The GWA could be found in the 1/3 Iteok territory protecting or helping species there to escape the Iteok. Then the Iteok get angry, some "technicalities" are brought up (we said you could have it, we didn't say we would leave) and everyone starts shooting :) MasterMachine -Peace is unattainable except through death. 11:13, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Another Idea/Empire/Faction/War
"The Electromagnetic “Gods”, as they are called, are massive beings made out of magnetic structure and organized star-energy. Their home: deep within the hearts of stars, any temperature, any size. Their natural size: they can be the size of small moons, or even planets, and those are still microbes compared to the stars they live in. In order to survive, however, they require the massively hot temperatures of a star. In fact, they are so heat-dependant that they cannot even comprehend the existence of planets, or of life, existing in the deep freeze of space, or even in the icy winters of lava worlds with temps of 700+ ˚F. For them to touch such an object is for them to die." - From a Word Document with all the details for this new empire.

Yep, I've done it again. Since I can't seem to control myself, I ended up creating another empire. It's not on Sporewiki yet, but I think it has great potential. In fact, I know it has great potential., I created it and have already thought up ways to involve them in the universe despite their differences. But first, here's a general bit of info on what they are:

The Electromagnetic Gods are a powerful species of life form. They are made up of organized energies which are in turn created out of magnetic fields and high energies of a star. They exist solely within the Wental Galaxy right now (AKA, when I add them to Sporewiki) but they have a massive population. They average out at planet-sized when in a vacuum, about 40 miles around when in a star. They have no physical form, beyond the plasma that runs along the electromagnetic strands of their being. Using electricity to think, with magnetic fields that make up their "bodies" they are incapable of existing for long outside stars. The Electromagnetic Gods look like ameba, a type of bacteria (I probably spelled "ameba" wrong) from the outside, but have an amazingly complex internal structure of strands of magnetic fields with nodules of light where they cross or meet. They also have powerful star-based abilities, such as setting off solar flares and creating superdense blasts of plasma and magnetism that can destroy entire planets. They do have a weakness however: they cannot exist in the icy cold of the universe, only within the massive temperatures of a star can they survive for long. When they hit, say, a planet, they die. Simple as that. They can be spewed out of a star in solar flares and other star-expulsion type events. They are the initial creators of the Wental Transgate System, which was built to allow them to travel from star to star without fear of freezing in the vacuum of space.

So, that's the summary. Here's how I would get them involved in the universe. An Astrolight looking to create more of itself in Wental happens upon a star controlled by the Electromagnetic Gods. This astrolight starts to consume said star, which angers and harms the Electromagnetic Gods. They destroy the Astrolight, but it's children continue to destroy the star, forcing the Electromagnetic Gods to flee. The Electromagnetic Gods then spend a few weeks learning up on the universe beyond stars, and retaliate for the "attack". However, they do not discriminate between "Astrolight" and, say, Meta, or DCP, or TIAF or Grox, bacteria, or even Xhodocto/Ravenrii. They attack all life that exists outside stars, using the stars themselves to wipe out entire systems. Eventually, they will find the Astrolights and the war will shrink back into the stars, but until then they will be attacking everyone. They have anger issues, BTW, so peace wouldn't be an option. At first it would be limited to the Wental Galaxy, but they would eventually learn of and spread to other galaxies, like the Milky Way, Cyrannus, Forma/Sana, extra. The stars themselves would be attacking, but only in systems with life. When they do meet the Astrolights, the battle would shrink into the stars because the Astrolights and Electromagnetic Gods are similar forms of life, and would use individual stars as battlegrounds. This would, of course, cause stars to flicker and die from overuse as energy sources. I'm imagining all hell breaking loose for the duration of the war, and with neither side wining. It would be an ongoing conflict, similar to the War of Ages.

So, what do you all think about this idea? I know I may not be around much this summer (which sucks) but we don't have to start said war tomorrow. It can wait until next September or even a later date. So, again, what do you think? MasterMachine -I'm not afraid to fall, I may just learn to fly.- 15:29, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

And my imagination continues. Instead of eventually destroying each other, the Astrolights and Electromagnetic Gods, being so similar, may merge into one species. Now that would lead to many interesting endings... yes, I like. I like a lot :D MasterMachine -I'm not afraid to fall, I may just learn to fly.- 15:43, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

that thing is great idea and to make sure you don't forget us and your fiction ideas i suggest you write this suff in a notebook. also without the wiki we can still communicate fine through e-mail or chatroom site. Also you are very good at this and maybey you could make your own little version of star-trek,star wars or some other sci-fi thing that people know about and make referances to on shows that have science fiction nerds on them. Also I am thinking of having the shellious imperium gain about 4 more races that share the home and power of the great imperium that between you and me i have a big surprise for them that in hint form has to do with the krassio,psionic energy,the second coming,a war through dimensions,new faces on shellis with AIs and large technospheric lords,a shower no thats at home tonight,and a little trouble in the nova cluster that involves a wormhole of epic power. So basiclly i have a ton but im also a bit busy with it. stay in touch maybe through a place like facebook or AOL. Also this might be the last you see of me for a while because i am going to new york for the weekend and you might be gone by the time a get back to my unfortunetly storm infested ocean state of wierdos. So late see you soon on the internet or if rare a simaler vacation choice of going to florida or some other tropical wonder.good thing your not someone who hates long messages cause this is long so later mastermachine reply soon.--Twink talk to me we all have a minute to learn a lifetime of disaster. 17:54, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

While I make no promises about not forgetting you guys (my memory's about as good at hold memory as a strainer is at holding water) I will try not to forget my fiction ideas, even if I have to write them down. You sound busy lol, remind me of R17Funny, except without the minor outbursts. (BTW, if anyone flames R17 on my talk page I WILL find a way to curse you out without getting blocked again). I don't have facebook, thank god (one less stress factor in my life) but I do have a U-tube account, so if all else fails I can always use that (see, I'm innovative XD) Have fun on your vacation! And I do not have anything against long messages, mine are usually about that big (or bigger lol). MasterMachine -I'm not afraid to fall, I may just learn to fly.- 20:42, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

oh well see you {when september ends}.--Twink talk to me we all have a minute to learn a lifetime of disaster. 12:44, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Good News! (plus another update for fun)
lol, bad news, good news, what's next, neutral news? Anyway, I have figured out how to work my moms computer with sporewiki, it'll take some adapting too but I can do it (ironically, I'm grounded from it until monday now...lol) so I will in fact be here over the summer! Can I hear a "whoot whoot?" -hears an echo of the "whoot whoot!"- Okay, so that means several things. First off, the War for Wental will indeed be able to continue (now there's something to celebrate) which will allow me to properly introduce the new member of the Greater Wental Alliance, as well as of the Lesser Wental Alliance. It will also allow me to issue my "Wental Ultimatum" which will effectively cause the war to escalate and become much more serious. Here's a preview:

The Wental Grox will be introduced (with triangular ships [with purple coloring] when my mom's comp is under my control again), along with several other species including the Phreonics (Free-O-Nixs) Lords, the Galactic AI of Wental (which will only be a background article as a database in Wental), and the Maladan, Tinies(maybe), and the "Clone Republic" as members of either the GWA or LWA, excepting the Grox and Phreonics Lords, who will be independent. However, the introduction of these many factions will be during the War for Wental, with the Clone Republic being a part of the GWA and the Maladan being a new LWA empire. I may also bring the Sporemaster Alliance and Darkstar Alliance into the 2nd Bunsen War, and through that into the War for Wental (with surprising sides :P). Finally, the Electromagnetic Gods will be introduced, and a possibility of a second Sporemaster War occurring due to the Bunsen Galaxy War (which would add another front to the entire war ;)

Okay, preview over, you'll just have to wonder what those new empires will be. You may be surprised by the final answer lol. I am happy, I still have computer access and my block is up in 2 days, yes I am very happy!!!!!!!! MasterMachine -I'm not afraid to fall, I may just learn to fly.- 19:21, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

AWESOME!!! :D :D :D

Irskaad - Talk to me - Respect the Kraw and their Galaxy! - Date and Time: 19:25, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

lol, that's what I said XD. MasterMachine -I'm not afraid to fall, I may just learn to fly.- 19:37, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

oh yes yes yes yes yes! awesome! now we can continue! This is great and epic awesome! ok ive settled down. yes! this is great! --Twink talk to me we all have a minute to learn a lifetime of disaster. 21:49, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Universal Federation
You may have noticed my Universal Federation "Realities Altered" story. Well... answering this question properly will be your punishment for making so many galaxies and empires. :P I may include them in the story, and if so, what were your galaxies like ~6070 years ago, and how would the civilisations in them have reacted to the Universal Federation? 12:57, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

And 6000 or so years ago? 13:29, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

Okay... I'll see what I can do. 14:08, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

I think I might be able to start it now. I'll ignore the Wental species for now, and just concentrate on the "Ikiwa Eropsii Cluster". So that leaves the Sapo Hive Mind (would be neutral), Omega (at first, the Federation would probably think that they're inanimate creations built by an ancient civilisation), Guardians of Time's Gate (I suppose they'd be neutral too), and the Sandgorgon. So, two things:
 * Would the Sandgorgon be important? Yes, they're strong, but as far as I can tell they have no FTL travel and they could probably be killed in a few shots from the Federation's rayguns (maybe a dozen or so for the full form, at most). They'd still be a threat to individual colonies, but not to the entire Federation.
 * This isn't necessarily important for the story, but the Sapo pages doesn't do a good job at explaining how old the Sapo are. A "galactic rotation" would probably be millions of years; even if you were to assume that all stars orbited the centre at the same rate (which they don't) then, based on the size of the Sana galaxy (or is it Forna that's the largest?), a time of much less than 23,000 years would result in the outermost stars travelling faster than light, ultimately making the Sapo older than the universe.
 * 10:24, June 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay... well, I suppose they wouldn't be able to get that many shots in anyway. As long as they're made of matter, though, antimatter will work... but since they only need to be stopped and not destroyed, and since you might end up saying that they're not made of matter, I won't need to go into details.
 * It's not a matter of endurance, it's a matter of the gravitational pull being able to accelerate them to those speeds. Perhaps you should just scrap the "galactic rotation" unit of time. Well, I think I'll be able to write the story now. 12:52, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Really...
Ok I'm gonna start by saying I have no clue why you're annoyed of the Xhodocto being so epicalish powerful. Do you really think they're actually gonna just blow you up tomorrow? No, the Xhodocto bring themselves down to mortal's level just for kicks. They can't be bothered to blow the universe up, that's boring. And you realise the rest of the Omnipotent 4 aren't much weaker? The Xhodocto and Taldar blow up each other's universes everyday. Getting annoyed, ranting and swearing really doesn't get you anywhere, so all I can say to that is grow up. Everyone else accepts the fact that the Xhodocto are powerful and lives with it, but we don't need to make omnipotent races just to survive them. If you really feel that the universe is so messed up over this one little fact, then you shouldn't be in the universe. And him being rude to you, wel how would you like it if a fiction you'd worked on for 2 years suddenly gets attacked for being too powerful, who doesn't even know all the facts?-- 21:20, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

????????
why are you deleting so many of your creations?--Twink talk to me we all have a minute to learn a lifetime of disaster. 21:50, June 9, 2011 (UTC)