Board Thread:Wiki Discussion/@comment-1370845-20141107202502/@comment-32788838-20141107212101

Dromlexer wrote: I oppose the removal.

Mainly because the logs are useful to, like what Drodo said, to catch up or re-read a segment related to fiction and roleplay. I don't think it spread paranoia or fear. Removing the logs would just create a free court for trolls and rule-offenders. It would totally remove a majority of the evidence of rule offense. Worst of all, it would cause a scenario. Which I'm not going to describe, because it offends the community.

But I can agree that lot of infobot's commands are annoying. But ever since then we grew mature. I don't think it's a big deal, we just tell them to stop it. Then punish them for not stopping. That ain't hard. First of all, if you wish to observe and revise text that pertains to fiction, or anything that happens to be significant to you that is brought up on the primary IRC channel, then you can just save it yourself which eliminates having to wade through plentiful tons of information that happens to be irrelevant to what you are searching for. Second, removing the logs would not create a "free court"; if administrators or bureaucrats are not present when rules are broken or disturbances are made within the community, then users can just save the information themselves to allow an admin to revise at a later time in order to deal with such.

The complete removal of the logs and the infobot we currently have is rather unnecessary and perhaps even counterproductive in some circumstances, although I believe that since such logged information is only relevant during times where rules have been bent and as such is relevant explicitly to the bureaucrats and administrators, then access to them by standard users should be prohibited due to the reasons I have provided above. I would not be opposed to implementing a near-identical, more customizable and more wiki-exclusive variant or equivalent of the current infobot that our IRC channel if such can be done as the infobot has its conveniences in itself, such as the aforementioned "fun" functions and the quick dictionary commands.