Board Thread:Wiki Discussion/@comment-4242472-20140816221856/@comment-1370845-20140816223711

I'm going to give a disclaimer and say you will not like what I have to say. I'm also going to put a disclaimer that my views do not represent those of the admin team, they represent my frustration in response to this situation. You're not going to like what I have to say, but the truth hurts. And I'm sorry to say it, but I think this idea, frankly, is absurd.

A recent suggestion of new admins was turned down by several people on the basis that we have enough.

No. It was turned down on the basis that we do not need any, nor do we have anyone suitable for the job. It was turned down because there is not a single active user remaining with any significant contributions beyond the Fiction Universe to their name other than The Randomness.

But for a long time now there's also been accusations of an admin hierarchy existing.

And where has that idea come from other than the same group of individuals? If you feel paranoid about it, then what can we do to change your minds? Why would promoting anyone solve a single problem? No, we're not going to give you what you want just because you're scared of us. Where has this idea even come from?

The wiki itself is getting old, coming on six to eight years I think. But having the same core admins for so long can have negative long term effects as so far it seems current positions are more-or-less permanent unless someone steps down.

No. There is not a single wiki that has demoted its staff on the basis that they are inactive or old. And that is for a good reason. While we're at it, why don't we demote Ose, Mason or Morgoth?

Saying you are a moderator for a community group can also be positive for one's CV as employers like seeing interviewees who can show they have experience in leadership and responsibility roles.

...Sure it does, but what kind of point is this? If you want the job, why don't you earn it, by, well, actually contributing? You earn it through proving yourself, not through some poll, or some popularity contest.

We've built something great here, let's not destroy it by a fabricated class division.

The only "fabricated class division" has come from the new users, specifically the Katarians it seems, out of paranoia. I have no sympathy for that. I am unapologetic when I say that the users are demanding loads from a wiki they have contributed nothing to. Sitting in the fiction universe and writing is not making a contribution. Why are you demanding so much from people you have done nothing for? As I have said numerous times, there are about 2 or 3 people left who have actually contributed to the site that aren't already admins. Class system comes from the fact that some have experience in contributing while others have done nothing.

We need to get rid of the idea that there are some elitist overlord admins, perhaps. We do not need to do that by mindlessly promoting anything. Or by forgetting, y'know, the whole point of an admin.