User talk:Liquid Ink

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 * align="left" | Hello! I'm a very social person, and I will try to answer every question or message if I can solve it.  Please feel free to talk to me!  But remember to follow our talk page policies, such as leaving me messages on the bottom of the page and signing your posts using wavy things ( ~ ), thanks Jim! Oh, and don't archive this page without my permition.
 * align="left" | Hello! I'm a very social person, and I will try to answer every question or message if I can solve it.  Please feel free to talk to me!  But remember to follow our talk page policies, such as leaving me messages on the bottom of the page and signing your posts using wavy things ( ~ ), thanks Jim! Oh, and don't archive this page without my permition.

Yeah, this is how I archive mainly. Okay, I'll make it later! Wormulon  Talk to me  09:50, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re Fiction Universe
I don't really have any ideas at the moment, but I will inform you if I do!-- Um2k9  - Fight the Future...  13:39, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Fantasyverse and other things
-Kcch- ''Time travel? We don't deem time travel to be very useful to us, it is also very dangerous, stranding travellers in other timelines, decreases the age of the universe messing up causality and creating nasty time paradoxes. However, we have used time dilation to jump ships faster into the future and created gravitational time dilation fields to slow down the enemies frame of reference.'' -Kcch---DCP

The Phfiion look interesting, and it seems you have thought up a similar idea to my Islanders. I can't think of any ideas to help you with them. Wormulon  Talk to me  11:48, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

RE:Fantasy Loron
Yeah Wormulon recommended the same thing, I'll stick with that and thanks.-- 11:51, February 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * I have now, it's really cool, but if you see my latest blog, you'll understand why I haven' seen it til now (and haven't really been editing).-- 11:58, February 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well yeah ;) And I see what you mean. I like the Phfion (I can't spell :P) and I think there is great potential for them. When you return to the DSB, what are your plans?-- 12:07, February 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Cool cool, if I'm still there I'll look into it.-- 12:23, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Koldenwelt Spice
I would assume Koldenwelt has spice, though we haven't brought up that subject yet. You should ask Imperious or Ghelae about it, but I assume Koldenwelt would have red spice, the most common. Greetz, - Dinoman82   - Long live the Rambo!  14:41, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

That's one way of looking at it, yes. Or, since Koldenwelt is based loosely on a Tribal Stage/early Civ Stage planet, and since the player's homeworld always has red spice, then... well, that's just the logic behind Koldenwelt having red spice. Alternatively, much like in the Civ Stage, we could just call it "spice" and not worry about colour, since there'll probably never be a time where we have to describe its colour. Another option: since Koldenwelt isn't part of either the Spore universe nor the SporeWiki scifiverse, it could conceivably have any kind of spice at all (which was why I suggested white spice, or maybe every kind of spice - the latter of which would mean that the spice trade might actually make economic sense). I'd go either for "we don't need to care what colour it is" (since... we don't) or for "every kind of spice" (since, as I mentioned before, it would actually make sense for people to trade it). For "we don't need to care what colour it is", I suppose I'd just let everybody else make the essentially arbitrary decision as to which colour it actually is. 08:09, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

hmm, every kind of spice also sounds nice :D - Dinoman82   - Long live the Rambo!  19:37, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re Civilization Stage
Whoops, sorry I couldn't respond, I have been very busy!


 * I think that this universe should simply be called the Civilization Universe, and perhaps the planet itself could be called Gaia, which is the Greek word for earth or land.


 * I suppose you could create the page now, I will help if you want?

-- Um2k9  - Fight the Future...  16:17, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Resistance
Hey Liquid Ink, yes the Resistance was destroyed by the Imperial Alliance, because they used there newest superweapon, the Novae on the Resistance home system and the sun went nova, destroying all life in that system. Afterwards they hunter down the remaining Resistance to tie up the loose ends. And yes, they were former allies, but the Imperials didn't needed nor saw use for the Resistance anymore.

Later on, the Imperial Alliance collpased due to the Emperor being "killed" by the Regent and was reformed in the Imperial Remnant, desperatly to rebuild there former strenght! Greetz, - Dinoman82   - Long live the Rambo!  20:05, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ah ok, clear. How is the Iron Bloc doing now? - Dinoman82  - Long live the Rambo!  20:55, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Oh nice! So the plans are there, very very bold I assume haha. Will keep an eye at the Iron Bloc War! - Dinoman82  - Long live the Rambo!  21:02, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re- Tribal Dudes
They could be! I have subscribed to you after all.-- Um2k9  - Fight the Future...  21:19, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Izalga
It would sorta break the chain of seven Descended entities, with each one representing a particular sin. But sure, Izalga can gain Descension energy. Well, I recommend you also ask Xho. Lucario of the Gods (talk 11:40, February 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sure, go ahead. Mrnxdz.png OluapPlayer  -  Fear me, cowards!  12:11, February 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sure, why not. Done.--Corfed.png The   Mushrum King  21:43, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Life yes, Chaos...no. Izalga would have to be incredibly resilient to use even a small portion of Chaos Energy, and even then it would slowly kill him. Xho -- The End Is Near. 22:53, February 23, 2011 (UTC)

Also Life energy might actually be related to Chaos in some way, life basically is order to chaos. Wormulon  Talk to me  22:59, February 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Wouldn't that make Life Energy Chaos Energy's opposite?
 * Anyway, while I'm here. :P How exactly do you mean that Dark is a "variation" on Mystic? Would it be that Dark is derived from Mystic, like Dark Gyronic was from Gyronic? Incidentally, there's also another thing I think I should mention - Izalga shouldn't have been able to make Shock Energy from mixing Gyronic and Dark Gyronic, since they're not literal opposites any more.
 * Or would it mean that Dark and Mystic are actually the same Energy, which doesn't appear to be so. Perhaps individuals tend only to use one "side" of Mystic powers, i.e. either the benevolent ones or the malevolent ones, but that doesn't explain the major differences in the species compatability lists. Perhaps the lists should, rather than being a final statement of which species can use which powers, instead refer to the species in which generally an individual is more likely to have the right mindset for using them.
 * Or did you mean something else entirely?
 * Oh, and BTW: "Ghelae von Fantastisch"? :D 07:56, February 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * I know; I don't think Light and Chaos Energy were supposed to be opposites either.
 * That could work, but... I've also had another idea. According to the Mystic Energy page, Mystic comes "from the spirit of a creature". Since spirits are (with some exceptions) composed of Elemental Energy, perhaps Mystic would be a third method of accessing the same power - common Elemental from the surrounding environment, Mana from Energy "accumulated" in the body over time (or something roughly along those lines), and Mystic from Energy naturally "generated" in the body (or however the soul is created and maintained). The problem with that is that I'm not sure about how Dark Energy would exist as a seperate Energy with the two of them being like Gyronic and Dark Gyronic (as opposed to sets of seperate powers of the same Energy requiring seperate mindsets, which would actually work even better with them being forms of Elemental). I suppose Dark could be an Elemental-derived Energy (like Fiammian, maybe?). It would be based on the Mystic aspects of it, probably because the origin of Mystic Energy (i.e. the soul) would be the easiest thing to manipulate to get a new Energy. That might also explain why students of Dark aren't supposed to have learnt any other Energies before, since Dark Energy actually changes the nature of the soul. That does leave the problem as to how Izalga managed to learn it; perhaps he'd learnt enough Energies beforehand to keep it all in balance (or maybe it's just something that the Vartekian sorcerers like, or maybe Richardson meant to write "You don't need to have learnt any other Energy manipulation...", etc).
 * Yes, I gathered that (and IIRC, "von" means "of" or "from", but that's just being picky :P). 08:25, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

I know; that's why I initially put it as a Light Energy. The problem is, I don't know how a Light Energy could be turned into something like Dark, which is why I put Dark as Mystic's Chaotic equivalent. Mystic Energy needn't be a subtype of Elemental, but if Dark Energy isn't going to be a Chaotic-type opposite of it, then it should probably be one of the "other Energies". Mystic and Dark don't seem like the other Light and Chaotic Energies anyway; Mystic doesn't have mind-control powers beyond "limited telepathy" and Dark doesn't grant any form of Descension. 09:04, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

So, what do you want me to put Mystic and Dark Energies as? Just "other Energies"? Subtypes/derivations of Elemental? Or keep them as Light and Chaotic? 09:33, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Battle for Earth
-- Wormulon  Talk to me  19:32, February 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * The Uber turrets sound okay, but I doubt the Tier 2 Jovar, humans and Tier 1 DCP would be affected by Radar jammers.
 * If Mars warped into a pocket universe it would cause a gravitational destablization that would turn the Innner Solar System to chaos. I don't mind the DCP being distracted but it would cause massive long term effects thast is likely to cause harm to Earth's orbit, and the motion of other bodies.  Also pocket universes are very overpowered, usually good only for Tier 0 civilizations, and this is possibly how they achieved it.
 * The DCP could still be distracted in some other way, they don't have many colonies on Mars and most of the DCP forces are fighting elsewhere.
 * Sounds okay, they will need massive forces, then again, the outer colonies are lekely to be small areostats floating in the gas giants.
 * Thats sounds possible to me. They will need to use the uber turrets to distract Sol forces.
 * Not sure if occupation will work, since the DCP, SSA, Humanity/Near Humans, Jovar and many other races would come back. Even with loads of uber turrets using hyperspace or ghost phase they could appear behind the lines of uber turrets.
 * I guess my above opinion makes this one not possible. However, maybe the Irons conquer the Lequian homeworld and then the lost Irons liberate it at the end of the war.

Hey Liquid, if there's a battle coming in the Sol System could the Gjigantrox participate, since they've clonised Neptune? Max  (Don't Follow The Lights...)  19:37, February 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * And I think RNA is very similar, if not the same in composition to DNA, it is just arranged and structured a bit differently. Wormul.png Wormulon   Talk to me  19:39, February 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I would also like for the URC to contribute, I could create some pictures for the battle.--LibertusBoy.png Um2k9  - Fight the Future...  19:53, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Battle of the Earth? What it will exactly be? And also, Terdiatlans will participate there to defend their allies, and because they originated from humans and Earth before millenias.

The 9988 -message  20:00, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

They could do that! Although could a few DCP fight the Zarni and Irons? I don't want to miss out. Wormulon  Talk to me  23:56, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Darkspore Wiki
94Connor94 has started a Darksporewiki just incase u haven't seen it yet :D hekp us transfer the pages from here, to there!

http://darksporegame.wikia.com/wiki/DarksporeWiki

Also, look on my page, I will be posting pictures of my Heroes soon ;D

ShadowRaptor101 23:30, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Congrats
Congradulation for having more shared content than Wormulon!

I feel so sorry for you because your Spore isn't working, and also, I'm not one to be annoyed, so don't try.

Its been a while...
Hey Liquid! I haven't talked to you in ages! How are you? Val  (Mind Heist)  00:10, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Chaos Energy
Although it's obviously not my decision, I had an idea like that too. However, it wouldn't be so easy as just merging the Energies inside his body. One idea I had involved the Tokzhalan Empire (who have recently focused a lot of their efforts on the study of supernatural things like Energies, but another civilisation could take their place instead) capturing Izalga (obviously, they'd have to sneak up on him somehow and then just beam him onto one of their ships). In their studies, probably involving something like finding an obscure creature in some unexplored part of the universe and "reverse-engineering" its own natural Energy abilities... or maybe something completely different... they would have discovered a means of "merging" Energies, and Izalga would be a perfect test subject for seeing if it works. He'd be convinced to let the Empire experiment on him, since he would have the promise of at least being able to access Chaos powers. How well the plan would work, or not, I don't know, although all of the people involved would be sure that it would succeed. Perhaps it should be the climax of the story?

Also, on your Game of Existance plan, one detail: Imperios and a few others of us have discussed Spode on IRC. We've retconned him to not exactly exist. I think the idea is essentially this: The Eola'Nar were a species who, in their studies of Energies, concluded that there was some kind of intelligent force driving the universe (i.e. the One God). Almost certainly mistakenly, they also concluded that this force - "Spode" - wanted the universe to achieve balance. The Eola'Nar eventually Ascended, and as Spodelings, they carried out what they believed to be Spode's will, including spreading the belief in Spode across the universe (probably for pragmatic reasons rather than evangelistic ones). So, actions attributed to Spode are actually those of the Eola'Nar and their hive mind, and Spode as commonly perceived doesn not actually exist. 21:39, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

No Chaos. No excuses. Unfortunately those kind of energies don't 'combine' to form Chaos, Chaos acts as some kind of 'emulsifier' for these Darkness Energies. Xho -- The End Is Near. 16:12, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Physics of the Fantasy Universe

 * Well, there needn't be literally limitless resources, but there'd be so many that it would seem as though there were. If it took 80,000 years for the adamantine and orchalcum to run out, we probably won't exhaust anything else any time soon.
 * Yeah, we could use "brimstone" and "quicksilver" instead of "sulfur" and "mercury", even though the latter two aren't very scientific anyway (however, "mercury" is associated with European culture, as it comes from the name of a Roman deity, so "quicksilver" might seem more Koldenwelty). As for the gases, the only civilisations who have any idea that air is not an element on its would probably be the ones that are already relatively scientifically advanced, so there's no reason for them to not use scientific-sounding names for them. 16:55, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

No, sorry, I don't think Izalga would be able to get learn Fiammian Energy. Sorry, and thanks for thinking about it!  Falco Punch -- '' It's just a flesh wound! '' 02:02, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

Demons
Demons on the Ayrai'Shikua/Demons page are demons in the Legion whilst Demons on the Hell page are denizens of Hell. Xho -- The End Is Near. 20:19, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Fiction
Thank you and hello, Liquid Ink! I just had the idea one day of a Steve-based society, and when I joined SporeWiki a few weeks ago, I decided to go with it. I am a total science geek(which explains some of my physics-related pages) and I think that SporeWiki is a very fun and fascinating place. I'm already collaborating with Bio21 on my fiction.

Hope to see you around!
 * --SocietyofSTEVE.png Society of STEVE "The beginning of everything; the end of time and space." 21:34, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Heya
Umm, hope you dont miss me to much >_>

Just wanted to say hey

Oh... and

I KNOW YOUR REAL NAME DUN DUN DUNNNNNN

(Its not Duncan)

09:16, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Atom colours, and other things
I suppose its down to what table. Wormulon  Talk to me  20:36, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

-- Wormulon  Talk to me  20:40, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Have you seen Tier instruction manual, it is the Empires in Comparison 3?
 * I'm afraid I do not know what Venom's account was. Try searching for his creations on the Sporepedia, by looking at the name of his fiction.
 * Lol.

Re Miniportraits
Hello Liquid! Sure, I would be happy to make the mini portraits for you! I should have them as soon as possible.-- Um2k9  - Fight the Future...  18:02, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Miniportraits
I madesome for you. Check my contribs. - Imperios  -   We are eternal...  19:33, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

Incoming messenger from Tragnon kingdom to The Phfiion
''Greetings, nation of the south. We come in peace, from the mountains of North. You seem as natural trades, so we would like to meet you, and maybe start to trade. We have piles of gold, silver, diamonds, ametysts, emeralds, and other precious gems from our deep mines. We have massive naval fleet too, with ships more than 300 feet long. We don´t know many about you, but after discussion with your main diplomats, we may forge a long lasting alliance with you.'' Dynamenius Quints the merciful, Diplomat Prime of Tragnon kingdom The 9988 -message  11:19, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Corruptus
I need their PNG images. OluapPlayer -  Fear me, cowards!  14:13, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re:
Well, Russian accent is hard to translate, but this one is OK. Bu t we pronounce s as s, not as z. Otherwise, that's fine. - Imperios  -   We are eternal...  06:17, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Not really. It means there's a 22% chance of me caring. Xho -- The End Is Near. 21:30, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Dat cat
Hey Liquid I know this is a strange question but is that cat yours?

Thanks

MatthewMosley 03:21, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. He reminds me of my cat only his name is Catface and is white...and trolls me everyday.

MatthewMosley 09:38, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Question
I've heard of Flood having some kind of "Prophet forms". Is this form a thing that will rise if they will consume a Radeon or high-ranked Cognie? - Imperios  -   We are eternal...  07:49, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Spore Hero and laughs
If I ever get a Wii, I will get Spore hero, however, I;ve never played it.

As for laughs, hmm, there is only one way to find out! Wormulon  Talk to me  12:21, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Oh but I am ignorant :P  Xho -- The End Is Near.  17:07, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Transmission from the Cra Coalition
Greetings DSB, I am King Ali'Su I would like to have allies in this galaxy called the "Milky Way" and you seam to be a good choice so contact me and we could help each other out. Captian Char117 04:41, March 23, 2011 (UTC)Captian Char117

Incoming Transmission from Cra Coalition
Thank you for becoming our First Ally my people thank you. The Cra Coalition is a Galaxy of races that have come toghather to expand and establish Colonies across the Universe! Also today is a holy day as our Ultimate God is turning 14,000,000 today! Again thank you for becoming our Ally. Let the Almighty God Charles bless the Alliance. Captian Char117 22:20, March 23, 2011 (UTC)Captian Char117