Board Thread:Wiki Discussion/@comment-1370845-20141107202502/@comment-1073312-20141108170939

For the record, I too oppose this motion.

It is not that I don't oppose the creation of a new bot. Some users here are good coders and if they believe they can create a bot that is better than infobot, i.e. less easily abused and more SporeWiki-centric, then go for it, though make sure you get it running first! However, in my opinion, the logs must be open.

Once again I stress the importance of keeping the logs open. It is not the fault of users reading the logs, or the logs themselves, but bad behaviour which we have all seen on occasion. While I'm not saying users should be forced to act in a certain way (which too I would oppose), users should always be mindful about what they are posting, its common sense. After-all, the thing that holds together the whole wiki is that its community upholds a mutual understanding of the wiki and puts it first above all else. We are after-all on the wiki itself, quite well behaved and polite. So why not apply some courtesy on IRC? Think whatever it is you are posting is going to cause disruption and upset, and if there is an issue to bring it up that people won't like, it would better to seek that issue on a different chatroom or invite users who are interested, or seek a rational discussion on the wiki of the type stressed previously so all can see. Once again, I'm not asking for this to be enforced or for any restrictions, its more of a favour. I think escalations can be minimised if users are less likely to over-react, speak in the wrong environment or tone, and to stop backlashing against certain users. It can act like a cycle.

And as for freedom, I think there would be less freedom in a way with private logs (less openness and criticism), because its frankly elitist and more likely to make users not invited paranoid.

Finally, if people do want to talk about others without a backlash, then it would better to not do it on a public forum that was public from the beginning! It actually sounds rather selfish to me, to change it now. If you say something in public, then you should expect consequences. If we all respect that, I think we can act better as a courtesy as we do on the wiki.

Note: Jo let me add this after it was closed because it was closed as I was writing my final word.